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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    SPs are "disciplined with a work ethic second to none"? Hardly.
    I just quoted Quincy Jones, who knew and worked with Jackson for decades.
    Michael was an innovator, not an improvisor.
    There's a huge difference.

    Jackson went to great lengths to plan things out.
    Jackson's life was all about work, not play.
    Frankly, he was a workaholic.

    So many who knew him best said as much.

    BTW, you guys really need to get over this obsession with putting people in little boxes.
    Open your mind already.
    Jackson could easily be 50-50 S/N.

    It's not unusual.

    Since when was INFP known for workaholicism and planning things out? When was that a specific NP trait? That doesn't make a case for him being more balanced between N and S (whether he was or not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Since when was INFP known for workaholicism and planning things out? When was that a N trait? That doesn't make a case for him being more balanced between N and S (whether he was or not).
    My thoughts exactly...

    Quote Originally Posted by jaguar
    SPs are "disciplined with a work ethic second to none"? Hardly.
    I just quoted Quincy Jones, who knew and worked with Jackson for decades.
    Michael was an innovator, not an improvisor.
    There's a huge difference.

    Jackson went to great lengths to plan things out.
    Jackson's life was all about work, not play.
    Frankly, he was a workaholic.

    So many who knew him best said as much.

    BTW, you guys really need to get over this obsession with putting people in little boxes.
    Open your mind already.
    Jackson could easily be 50-50 S/N.

    It's not unusual.
    Much of Jackson's life was about play- what do you think Neverland was all about? Maybe he was just a smart SP.. a smart SP knows that you have to work hard somewhat if you want to do well in your career..also from my experience, Introverts tend to be more workaholic than Extraverts- seeing burying themselves with work as a way to hide from overstimulation..
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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Since when was INFP known for workaholicism and planning things out? When was that a specific NP trait? That doesn't make a case for him being more balanced between N and S (whether he was or not).
    That was my point. It's not.
    This is from one of my other posts:

    There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of possible types--not just 16.
    Frankly, I think Jackson probably had one hell of a unique function order.
    Certainly not any order that would come out of the MBTI cereal box.

    Does that sound like I actually believe he could only be INFP or ISFP?
    Of course not.

    The guy could be balanced in each and every pole.
    You nor anyone, would ever know it.

    Jung himself said: "Type can not be observed."
    But damned if there aren't a bunch of strange people who think all you have to do is look at his clothes,
    or the size of his balls, and know his type.

    We can't know the many sides of people.
    The most creative people are usually complex, and paradoxical.
    Psychological research has shown that to be true, time and time again.

    At the risk of sounding redundant, I don't think Jackson was any of the 16 types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    In this thread- SPs can't be innovative or creative! He must be N!
    I know, right? Actually, ISFP is supposed to be "the artist" which implies creativity. My ISFP ex is creative. I know several S people who are very creative with visual art, music, sewing, crafts, decorating, cooking, etc. I have an ISFJ friend who makes her own yarn.

    I also second what Heart said about INFPs and references to MJs workaholism . ROFL! Yeah, I don't think that's proof at all, in fact it might be an extreme deterent.

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    ^ You need to start reading posts correctly.
    I don't think he was ISFP or INFP.

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    ^ What would you say he was, Jaguar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mo View Post
    Yap, ISFP.
    From reading what ladyinspring wrote and from learning about michael jackson lately it seems to be a possible best fit type. Definately a dominant Fi user . I heard somewhere that he would never agree to a songs lyrics if he wasn't feeling it.

    I also heard from an interview that sounded so SP where he says
    pretty much where he can feel energy of the audience and the music go through his body*at least he implied it. I can't remember the exact words used*
    I agree on him most likely being a ISFP or at least SP.
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    Feeling is primarily a process.....that imparts to the content a definite value in the sense of acceptance or rejection. In the same way that thinking organizes the contents of consciousness under concepts, feeling arranges them according to their value. Feeling, like thinking, is a rational function, since values in general are assigned according to the laws of reason...
    (Carl Jung, Psychological Types, Chapter XI - Definitions)

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    SPs are "disciplined with a work ethic second to none"? Hardly.
    I don't know what you're talking about, but every SP I've ever known has been an extremely hard worker. Working hard they don't mind (if it's something they enjoy and get a tangible reward from doing); it's being bossed they don't like.

    Since Michael Jackson fits the SP temperament to a T and none of the others, I conclude that he is an SP. I remain unconvinced that temperament doesn't exist. He is not a good example of someone who exceeds type. He was an SP.

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    I am not a fan, but from what I've seen on the news, read or heard in passing, and heard of lyrics on the radio at the gym:

    IsFP or IxFP personality
    INFP lyrics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    ^ You need to start reading posts correctly.
    I don't think he was ISFP or INFP.
    The other dominant opinion here is INFP. If I didn't read what type you specified, I apologize. However, Heart made a similar error so it wasn't just me.

    I'm in college, you know, I study my work for classes closely. That and stuff that's actually important in the world, like the news. These forums don't generally merit enough energy for me to expend being extremely exacting. I'm here to relax.

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