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    What is it with everyone's obsession with House and everyone's LACK of obsession with 24.. lol

    Both shows are great, but "House" has really been overdone.
    Here is my opinion.

    House=INTJ
    He makes great use of ni and is in no way an extrovert. House doesn't like people and is far from energized by them. He just has a 'dominant personality' which seems to hold true for many INTJ's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    What is it with everyone's obsession with House and everyone's LACK of obsession with 24.. lol

    Both shows are great, but "House" has really been overdone.
    Here is my opinion.

    House=INTJ
    He makes great use of ni and is in no way an extrovert. House doesn't like people and is far from energized by them. He just has a 'dominant personality' which seems to hold true for many INTJ's.
    LOL. Can we just delete this post? There's another thread on this issue, where I explained, and more than one person agreed (so I'm not fucking crazy) that he's an extravert. One of them even figured it out on his own.

    Also, show me the Ni. I've yet to see anyone show me a case of Ni in House. I certainly can't find it.

    That seems to be a motif around here...

    It's not like alien sightings guys, you can't just say "I saw it", and expect people to believe you.

    But do it in the other thread. We don't need to ruin this one with that discussion when we already have a boxing ring set aside for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    LOL. Can we just delete this post? There's another thread on this issue, where I explained, and more than one person agreed (so I'm not fucking crazy) that he's an extravert. One of them even figured it out on his own.

    Also, show me the Ni. I've yet to see anyone show me a case of Ni in House. I certainly can't find it.

    That seems to be a motif around here...

    It's not like alien sightings guys, you can't just say "I saw it", and expect people to believe you.

    But do it in the other thread. We don't need to ruin this one with that discussion when we already have a boxing ring set aside for that.
    Lol! How about we don't delete this post.

    However where is this other thread?
    Please show me. I'm too lazy to look for it myself.

    I'll gladly explain the 'introverted intuition' there and here too, mostly his bouts of insight towards the end of every episode on the show. House usually has a 'gut feeling' about what it is, but then uses the facts and his medical knowledge (Extraverted Thinking) to make the case clear, but there is always that scene where his intuition pops up again and he suddenly gets the answer. This sounds INTJ to me. House is not comfortable around large groups like an extravert would be and there are so many other reasons.

    I'll write about them once I find this other thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    Lol! How about we don't delete this post.

    However where is this other thread?
    Please show me. I'm too lazy to look for it myself.
    I don't blame you it's hidden somewhere underneath the rubble probably a few pages back.

    I'll gladly explain the 'introverted intuition' there and here too, mostly his bouts of insight towards the end of every episode on the show.[/quote] No, he's usually discussing things with people, and all of a sudden, an analogy comes up in the conversation (extraverted intuition). Then he detaches (I'm sure this is what you confused for Ni) and he's reconfiguring things in his mind, with Ti, which ties the Ne knot.
    House usually has a 'gut feeling' about what it is, but then uses the facts and his medical knowledge (Extraverted Thinking)
    Again, those facts are just as easily Ti. In fact, Ti is more responsible for the knowledge, because it's an internalized framework
    to make the case clear, but there is always that scene where his intuition pops up again and he suddenly gets the answer. This sounds INTJ to me. House is not comfortable around large groups like an extravert would be and there are so many other reasons.
    He's plenty comfortable. What introverted hesitations do you see? I see none. He enters a situation and begins talking down and acting immediately. All NTs have dominant personality, the ENTs are just quicker about it.

    Misanthropy, is I'm sure one of the things you'd run to in defense, and that's fine, but who's to say an extravert can't be a misanthrope? I am. Talk to captainchick and digesthisickness (I'm sure) if you can find her. Or just ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post

    No, he's usually discussing things with people, and all of a sudden, an analogy comes up in the conversation (extraverted intuition). Then he detaches (I'm sure this is what you confused for Ni) and he's reconfiguring things in his mind, with Ti, which ties the Ne knot. Again, those facts are just as easily Ti. In fact, Ti is more responsible for the knowledge, because it's an internalized framework He's plenty comfortable. What introverted hesitations do you see? I see none. He enters a situation and begins talking down and acting immediately. All NTs have dominant personality, the ENTs are just quicker about it.

    Misanthropy, is I'm sure one of the things you'd run to in defense, and that's fine, but who's to say an extravert can't be a misanthrope? I am. Talk to captainchick and digesthisickness (I'm sure) if you can find her. Or just ask me.
    All NTs have dominant personality? yeah, maybe in D+D world. Ha!
    Ok, that was tastless. But seriously, this is just another one of those indulgent NT-larger-than-life myths out there that needs to die. NOW! Theorists look like jackasses when they don't know what they're doing- when they're in a position/task that doesn't fit thier skills-just like everyone else.

    Now as for the Ni thing, yes! Ni doesn't equal always right (Paul Wolfowitz), and INTJ doesn't equal arrogant jerk.
    Really, whenever I watch house, all I get is what an ass he is. I mean they're doctors, not Lawyers, so the whole adversarial thing he has-making his team fight each other is mean and unnesicary. Why should there be winning and losing for doctors, that shouldn't be motivating them in the first place! Anyway, I don't think house is a type. Whoever made his character probably got the idea from a ten-minute porn. He has about as much character developement as a pro-wrestling personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe View Post
    Really, whenever I watch house, all I get is what an ass he is. I mean they're doctors, not Lawyers, so the whole adversarial thing he has-making his team fight each other is mean and unnesicary. Why should there be winning and losing for doctors, that shouldn't be motivating them in the first place! Anyway, I don't think house is a type. Whoever made his character probably got the idea from a ten-minute porn. He has about as much character developement as a pro-wrestling personality.
    jeez man.

    house's character is great, actually. the plot of the show is always kinda subpar...house's character is like the only reason to watch.

    you didn't add anything to this discussion at all. if you think his character development is bad, say why or something. or comment on his type. why was that post even necessary?

    edit: just watched 3 episodes, i'm on the ENTP side now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    I don't blame you it's hidden somewhere underneath the rubble probably a few pages back.

    I'll gladly explain the 'introverted intuition' there and here too, mostly his bouts of insight towards the end of every episode on the show.
    No, he's usually discussing things with people, and all of a sudden, an analogy comes up in the conversation (extraverted intuition). Then he detaches (I'm sure this is what you confused for Ni) and he's reconfiguring things in his mind, with Ti, which ties the Ne knot. Again, those facts are just as easily Ti. In fact, Ti is more responsible for the knowledge, because it's an internalized framework He's plenty comfortable. What introverted hesitations do you see? I see none. He enters a situation and begins talking down and acting immediately. All NTs have dominant personality, the ENTs are just quicker about it.

    Misanthropy, is I'm sure one of the things you'd run to in defense, and that's fine, but who's to say an extravert can't be a misanthrope? I am. Talk to captainchick and digesthisickness (I'm sure) if you can find her. Or just ask me.
    Nocapszy, since you are an ENTP, I'm sure you will be to answer this question: As an extravert, how do you consider yourself misanthropic, if you do at all?

    Something I will already bring to my defense of House being an Introvert is that there has never been an instance in which House has been in a group and he has been energized by that. It could also be that because on the show, he is so much smarter than everyone else that he is left frustrated rather than energized of course. House is not someone who would be happy with many friends. There are many scenes with House content by himself playing video games or thinking. I know Extroverts can do this too, but House seems so much more content alone than with other people.

    Yet again, I'm not sure if this is whether he is an Extrovert who became frustrated with the outside world over time or he is an Introvert who always held some annoyance with being around people. Also, I haven't watched the fourth season in which I have heard that he puts his candidates for assistants up onto some 'reality show' like competition. To come to think of it, an ENTP would probably get more joy out of it (if that was his main point) than an INTP/INTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    Nocapszy, since you are an ENTP, I'm sure you will be to answer this question: As an extravert, how do you consider yourself misanthropic, if you do at all?
    I strongly dislike most people I come in face-to-face contact with. I'm smart. People are dumb. Yeah, I'm arrogant. Fuck me right?

    Something I will already bring to my defense of House being an Introvert is that there has never been an instance in which House has been in a group and he has been energized by that.
    What are you talking about? He's not energized in a positive way, but he really gets involved in his arguments. There's a lot invested. Remember when Foreman was leaving? He started off trying to be all introverted an cool about it, but he couldn't help himself but start getting angry and raising his voice telling foreman how he was wrong (Ti, not Te)
    It could also be that because on the show, he is so much smarter than everyone else that he is left frustrated rather than energized of course.
    Waw... imagine that.
    House is not someone who would be happy with many friends.
    Friends are not the hallmark of an extravert.
    There are many scenes with House content by himself playing video games or thinking.
    And you think he's drawing energy there? There are even more scenes where he's talking to people, energized or not.
    I know Extroverts can do this too, but House seems so much more content alone than with other people.
    Yeah, inviting wilson to live with him, and then tricking him into staying is indicative of being more content alone.

    House is just abrasive. Turns people off. He doesn't care. Argument and fighting with people is a good way to get people to talk. He knows that people often try to convince themselves by proving things to other people, including him, but they won't do it if they don't think they have to. House causes them to do that. How's that not extraverted perception?
    Yet again, I'm not sure if this is whether he is an Extrovert who became frustrated with the outside world over time or he is an Introvert who always held some annoyance with being around people. Also, I haven't watched the fourth season in which I have heard that he puts his candidates for assistants up onto some 'reality show' like competition.
    He invites 40 people to audition for the job. What I would do that? The only reason he wouldn't hire anyone at the beginning was because he didn't want to do what Cuddy told him. He wanted to play his guitar.
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    Think of it this way: how much introspection does House do? Answer: almost none. His energy is always directed outward, even if it's usually disdainful energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe View Post
    All NTs have dominant personality? yeah, maybe in D+D world. Ha!
    Go ride your unicorn LB.
    Ok, that was tastless. But seriously, this is just another one of those indulgent NT-larger-than-life myths out there that needs to die. NOW!
    Er... OK INTPs aren't that dominant.
    Theorists look like jackasses when they don't know what they're doing- when they're in a position/task that doesn't fit thier skills-just like everyone else.
    Then why are you posting?

    Now as for the Ni thing, yes! Ni doesn't equal always right (Paul Wolfowitz), and INTJ doesn't equal arrogant jerk.
    Really, whenever I watch house, all I get is what an ass he is. I mean they're doctors, not Lawyers, so the whole adversarial thing he has-making his team fight each other is mean and unnesicary.
    No, you just don't understand it.
    Why should there be winning and losing for doctors, that shouldn't be motivating them in the first place!
    Why not? It works.
    Anyway, I don't think house is a type. Whoever made his character probably got the idea from a ten-minute porn. He has about as much character developement as a pro-wrestling personality.
    Uh.... what?

    I repeat my question. Why are you posting?
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