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    ^He pronks, too! Magic Poriferan's Avatar
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    Question Can you type abstractions?

    A fun little Enneagram pastime that I have often done and seen done is to try typing abstract entities. Typically these are things that would involve multitudes of people.
    For instance, the Republican party is 6/5, and classical Japanese culture is 1/9.

    I attempted doing this with the MBTI and found it very difficult. It just doesn't seem to work.
    So let's have some other people try it.
    Do you find it just as hard to type abstract things with the MBTI?
    If so, what does that say about the difference between these two typing systems?
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    Hmm... I can, sort of (although it's mostly guessing). It's seems that it's probably harder than with Enneagram. I think it's that type tends to point to more specific tendencies than you can notice in an entities actions. I think it's used more pointedly on average.

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    abstractions


    yeah, i can!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    A fun little Enneagram pastime that I have often done and seen done is to try typing abstract entities. Typically these are things that would involve multitudes of people.
    For instance, the Republican party is 6/5, and classical Japanese culture is 1/9.

    I attempted doing this with the MBTI and found it very difficult. It just doesn't seem to work.
    So let's have some other people try it.
    Do you find it just as hard to type abstract things with the MBTI?
    If so, what does that say about the difference between these two typing systems?
    Yes and only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    ...the Republican party is 6/5...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sassafrassquatch View Post
    Does it bother you to have been placed in the same enneatype as the Republican party? Most of them are probably ES_J's, so you're probably still different.

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    It's a more complex theory, so it will naturally get more difficult to type with it. The Enneagram is quite simple: there are nine types; nine different motivations and ways of thinking. MBTT has sixteen possibilities, as opposed to nine (if you exclude the wings and subtypes from the Enneagram). It's harder to type through functions. Motivations are much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    It's a more complex theory, so it will naturally get more difficult to type with it. The Enneagram is quite simple: there are nine types; nine different motivations and ways of thinking. MBTT has sixteen possibilities, as opposed to nine (if you exclude the wings and subtypes from the Enneagram). It's harder to type through functions. Motivations are much easier.
    Well, I can even do it with the full Enneagram details.
    I think it might be because the Enneagram is so much about motives and opinions, whereas the MBTI is a very mechanical view on psychology that can't necessarily be applied to a non-human abstraction.

    And sassy... Bother you though it may, the Republican party is totally 6/5.
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    If you did not see this thread from the "enneagram masters" yet, you might find it interesting.

    It includes this breakdown:
    The Personality Types (Styles) of Contemporary Countries
    England: Types One, Five, and Six
    United States: Types Three, Six, and Seven
    France: Types Three, Four, and Seven
    China: Types Three, Eight, and Nine
    Japan: Types Six, Four, and Five
    Germany: Types Six, Five, and Eight
    Russia: Types Six, Eight, and Four
    Italy: Types Eight, Two, and Seven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    the Republican party is totally 6/5.
    ISTJ too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    The Personality Types (Styles) of Contemporary Countries
    England: Types One, Five, and Six
    United States: Types Three, Six, and Seven
    France: Types Three, Four, and Seven
    China: Types Three, Eight, and Nine
    Japan: Types Six, Four, and Five
    Germany: Types Six, Five, and Eight
    Russia: Types Six, Eight, and Four
    Italy: Types Eight, Two, and Seven
    I agree with most of those, but it needs to include Spain as a Six, Eight, and Three country. Japan is way off. Eight, One and Five, not Six, Four and Five. I'd also say Australia is a Six, Seven and Three country.

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