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    Quote Originally Posted by compulsiverambler View Post
    Is that an appeal to authority?
    It was more a request for evidence, but historically, the Nobel prize is not given to tyrants and frauds. It's not proof that the Dalai Lama is a noble (ha.) person, but it's an indication that, at the very least, creates a presumption of legitimacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xNTP View Post
    It was more a request for evidence, but historically, the Nobel prize is not given to tyrants and frauds. It's not proof that the Dalai Lama is a noble (ha.) person, but it's an indication that, at the very least, creates a presumption of legitimacy.
    It's not officially intended to be, but that's not the same thing.

    I don't know the inner workings of the selection process so I can't answer why he won, could only speculate. As I can only speculate about why Obama was given one. It wouldn't be the only time the choice has been questionable.

    A good starting point from which to look into the issues would be this article. It mentions most of the more serious criticisms.

    An important thing to remember when you read about the old regime of Tibet is that although he was probably too young when in Tibet to be truly in charge, since he's left he's remained tacitly in support of it by sticking with the story about being a reincarnation of all the previous Dalai Lamas and failing to mention and denounce their abuses. Surely his message to the Tibetans should be an apology for what they suffered under the priest class he was poster boy for and promise of reform should he be returned to power, not this idea of returning to an imaginary golden age in Tibetan history.

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    I'd personally say that he is an ISFP- he seems very well attuned with nature.
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    Default His Holiness the Dalai Lama ISTP

    I just finished watching a documentary on the 14th Dalai Lama. Although I'd read a book he'd written, and am quasi familiar in pop culture context. I found it interesting to observe several elements of his personality which seemed indicative of an ISTP.

    1. After his selection as a child, and while riding to the palace in a caravan of monks. He fought with his brother the entire way, nearly tipping the hand carried platform.
    2. The Dalai Lama has an obsession with sitting and taking mechanical and electronic items apart, so that he can see and figure out how they work.
    3. The man is well read and explores a variety of topics, often choosing science over religion when considering certain questions.
    4. His Holiness has a great disdain for public gatherings and participating in ceremonies, but does so in recognition of the importance to the larger community.
    5. The Dalai Lama is very quick witted, and spontaneous in his humor.
    6. He has no patience for individuals who request meetings with ulterior or insincere motives, and will often end an audience quickly.

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    He also emphazies analytical meditation.

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    I don't know anything about Dalai Lama, but wouldn't the whole spirituality thing be a bit anti-ISTP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lastrailway View Post
    I don't know anything about Dalai Lama, but wouldn't the whole spirituality thing be a bit anti-ISTP?
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by countrygirl View Post
    Why?
    Cause, I think, ISTPs would tend to be more pragmatic and realistic (I've noticed the ISTPs I've known are highly suspicious on anything spiritual). Ti would make them question a lot any metaphysical concept - or so I think.

    Though maybe I'm totally off with this, since I don't really know what sort of spirituality harbours Dalai Lama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lastrailway View Post
    Cause, I think, ISTPs would tend to be more pragmatic and realistic (I've noticed the ISTPs I've known are highly suspicious on anything spiritual). Ti would make them question a lot any metaphysical concept - or so I think.

    Though maybe I'm totally off with this, since I don't really know what sort of spirituality harbours Dalai Lama.
    My ISTP husband is suspicious of religion and its insitutions not spirituality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lastrailway View Post
    I don't know anything about Dalai Lama
    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...alai-lama.html

    Most people don't. That's how he gets away with it.

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