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    Gah, I love this show and can't wait until it comes back next season. From what I know of INTJs and ISFPs (which, admittedly, isn't a whole lot), I'd agree that Walter and Jesse fall under these categorizations.

    ...Plus, I just think Bryan Cranston's kinda hott, but that's just me. ...Sorry. Doesn't really have anything to do with the thread. Hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ObliviousExistence View Post
    Jesse a T? don't think so. I think Walter Jr is an F as well.

    Walter White: henpecked husband
    Skyler White: shrew
    Walter Jr: special
    Hank: arsehole
    Marie: kleptomaniac, possible sociopath
    Jesse Pinkman: junkie
    Tuco: psycho
    Gretchen: pretentious bitch
    Wow. I can see you're quite the ladies' man. :rolli:
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    i'm watching season 3 finally and this show is amazing

    Walt: INTJ
    Skyler: ENFJ
    Walt Jr: ISFP? i don't know he's really hard to type
    Hank: ESTP
    Jesse: eSFP, seems more introverted now because he's depressed
    Gale: INTP
    Gus: INFJ

    i just watched the scene where gus invites walt over for dinner, and the conversation they have about the senses and memory showed INFJ and INTJ together really well to me. they're both discussing the senses in an abstract Ni kind of way, but the way they approach it is so different. and gus is too smooth to be an INTJ, Fe over Fi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chana View Post
    i'm watching season 3 finally and this show is amazing

    Walt: INTJ
    Skyler: ENFJ
    Walt Jr: ISFP? i don't know he's really hard to type
    Hank: ESTP
    Jesse: eSFP, seems more introverted now because he's depressed
    Gale: INTP
    Gus: INFJ

    i just watched the scene where gus invites walt over for dinner, and the conversation they have about the senses and memory showed INFJ and INTJ together really well to me. they're both discussing the senses in an abstract Ni kind of way, but the way they approach it is so different. and gus is too smooth to be an INTJ, Fe over Fi.
    Too smooth to be INTJ? Really?

    I agree with all your typings except that one.

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    Yeah. I can't see Gus as INFJ. Dude does some pretty cruel, business-minded things, and he knows they're cruel or wrong. He gets close to folks, perhaps, but only so he can know them well enough to be A) sure he is in no danger or B) knows how he can deal with/manipulate them.

    Gus is what Walt could one day be if he keeps down his increasingly morally ambiguous path. The morality and genuine human connection is fully dead, but the profit and manipulation are fully realized. Both are INTJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havane View Post
    Why do you think that Walt Jr. is a T?
    The other kids were doing it, so I did too.

    But if I have to make an argument, it's "Flynn"'s ability to navigate through his mother's nonsense and to do a kind of wary, respectful, not-sure-yet nothing with his father's nonsense. Junior and Senior look like two different T's trying, and failing, to communicate feeling, whereas Junior and Skylar are fairly effortlessly able to get one another though not necessarily agree and not necessarily support. Which suggests to me INTP over INFP. Otherwise, yeah, Walt Jr is somewhat emo.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZPowers View Post
    Yeah. I can't see Gus as INFJ. Dude does some pretty cruel, business-minded things, and he knows they're cruel or wrong. He gets close to folks, perhaps, but only so he can know them well enough to be A) sure he is in no danger or B) knows how he can deal with/manipulate them.
    What part of that isn't INFJ?

    Gus is what Walt could one day be if he keeps down his increasingly morally ambiguous path.
    Gus is successful. That's not what Walt is going to be.

    The morality and genuine human connection is fully dead, but the profit and manipulation are fully realized.
    If feeling exists under thinking in an INTJ, then an INTJ doesn't grow into manipulations and profiteering by killing of conscience--he's born directly into strategy and conscience appears later. But an INFJ would have to kill off conscience to be like Gus. And, perhaps, they'd even look like Gus--wear a rubber mask that directly warns people he doesn't care.

    Not that I'd say for sure Gus is INFJ. Just that there's something not right about him as INTJ. Something about how Gus'd be more impressed with himself if he were INTJ. Gus maintains a mask. All. The. Time. He never lets it down, ever. It's got to be extremely taxing, unless it's part of his personality and to take it down would be worse than keeping it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post

    Gus is successful. That's not what Walt is going to be.
    Spoilers here!

    Two things keep Walt from being totally successful at the meth business: his connection/willingness to sacrifice for Jesse, and arguably the same trait, but applied to his family. If he didn't push for Jesse and kill those thugs for him, Walt would have been totally fine, even better off, this season. In fact it's been Jesse that risked the first connect with Gus, whom feel for Jane (who blackmailed him) whose slips caused the first two dealers to attack in the first episode, who caused the RV to run out of juice, stranding them in the desert. But Walt cares for him at his own detriment. Pretty much the only situation I don't think you can put Jesse more or less at fault for is Tuco, and even then he messed up slipping Tuco the Ricin discreetly, which would've probably spared them the wrath of the cousins. It's one of the sympathetic traits Walt has left, but without it he'd be making millions with no conflict. He may even be on the fast path to take over the meth game one day.
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    Mild Spoilers included.




    Kafkaesque

    Jessie: Say he's getting 40 a pound. 200 pounds a week. For three months. And like, what happens at the, the end of the three months?
    Walter: ...
    Jessie: Look whate-whatever. Two hundred pounds a week for three months. That's 24 hundred pounds. 24 hundred times forty thousand is, and I swear to God, I checked this like ten times--
    Walter: Ninety six million dollars.
    Jessie: Ninety six million dollars. All right? Ninety six. Million. Ninety six to our three. That is messed up, yo.

    And the next episode is The Fly. Now, the events of The Fly come about for any number of reasons, but one of them is a particular cognitive pressure Walt is choosing to work under, the one where he avoids addressing his intuitions or where he finds himself not immediately aware of how to address them and chooses to bury them. Longer term success for Walt is going to depend on how well he ends up making a match between his inner world and the outer world, and for as long as he keeps burying those intuitions, he isn't making that match up. He is, instead, playing by rules and conditions set by other people. In particular, for much of season three he is playing by the rule that somehow there exists some kind of respect between himself and Gus. But what is his intuition telling him? What did it tell him when Jessie offhandedly brought up a vital point in Walt's future, the end of the three month contract? Does Walt really believe that he can become the ISTJ clone he has most of his life attempted to be? Does he truly think there can be a good future for him in Gus' organization if only he works well and keeps his word?

    True success for Walt probably means destruction for everyone else. The interesting thing is Walt probably cannot step away from that fact even if he becomes truly aware of it. He's going to have to find the path through it all because he can't take all the destruction on himself and, for example, suicide, because he'll count that as a failure, and he can't just begin destroying things, because other people will bring their forces to bear and stop him from succeeding. He'll need to create something sufficiently immovable, and sufficiently open and plain to see, that others--Gus and Skylar--will exhaust themselves bringing their overwhelming force to bear upon it in attempts to change or alter or stop what Walt can do. Has he begun doing that? He isn't a match for Gus or even Skylar yet. And possibly wasn't ever going to be.


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    Walt is a definatly a N. He is doing all this shit so he can leave things behind for his family in the future when he is gone.

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    Looking at this thread again after the Season 4 premiere a couple nights ago (and it was a pretty good one). I noticed that some people type Jane, Jesse's old girlfriend, as INTP. Not sure if she is, but if that's accurate then...

    (SPOILERS, HIGHLIGHT TO READ)

    Between her and Gale the Breaking Bad people really love offing the token INTP at the end of the season
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