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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Don't tell me you believe that a 5 point variation on standardized IQ test is an accurate reflection of one's intelligence.

    Most IQ tests measure a minutia of overall human intelligence, and are conducted in a way that is receptive to certain types more than the others. For example, I would guess that an ISTJ kid is a lot more likely to sit still and read every question diligently for 2 hours than an ESFP kid.
    This is completely tangential to the subject matter, so I'll just leave it alone. I'm gonna assume you agree with Mal- ENTP and Wash- ENFP, since you have posed no real refutation for it, and move on.

    Everyone on that ship became part of the crew - that's kind of the whole point of the series.

    And even if you are just a passenger on the ship, when you chastise the captain you risk getting your ass thrown off of it.


    Would you say that it is possible that as an NF he got tired of killing people and became a preacher as an act of repentance?
    That is possible yes.

    Strategic thinking is the dominant type of intelligence for an NT (read some Keirsey).

    If you, as an NT, suck at it... well then, I'm sorry to say you don't have a lot going for yourself.
    No no no, conceptual thinking is the dominant type of intelligence for an NT. In NTPs this manifests itself in the form of innovation (which I'm very good at) rather than vision. Strategic thinking is Ni domain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny View Post
    Now I'll go with ISTJ for Mal. If you look at interaction styles alone you can see he's no ENTP. He's responsive and directing.
    He is sociable as fuck, and he isn't any sort of S. He displays a very consistent knack for foresight, improvisation and originality. I'd sooner guess ENTJ than ISTJ, but he really isn't a Judger, as for all his foresight he has no grand vision. As he himself said in Serenity, he "ain't got no rudder. Wind blows Northerly, [he goes] North." He doesn't plan more than a few hours in advance.

    So, no, ISTJ is even more off the mark than ISTP.
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    One additional note: Mal gives off bossy and decisive J vibes, but that's not how the character was written. Mal appears bossy because Mal is played by Nathan Fillion, who is an ENTJ and completely incapable of playing anyone other than Nathan Fillion. You might notice that, in conflict to Fillion's directive aura, Mal lets things slide instantly.
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    Are there interviews with Nathan Filion that show the ENTJ thing you can point me to? In the interviews I've seen I can't believe the contrast between the characters he plays and the almost girly man in the interviews.
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    Captain Malcolm Reynolds - ENTP
    Zoe Alleyne Washbourne - ISTJ
    Hoban Washbourne - ENFP
    Inara Serra - INFJ
    Jayne Cobb - ISTP
    Kaywinnit Lee Fry - ESFP
    Dr. Simon Tam - INTJ
    River Tam - INTP
    Shepherd Derrial Book - ISFJ

    Mal is without a doubt a ENTP, you have to look at all his attributes and qualities as a whole.
    His Ego-
    His Stubborness-
    His Humor-
    His ability to improvise
    His Wit
    His knack for debate
    His near constant one-upmanship
    His quirky sentimental loyalties - Dont mistake these for being a F type. They are very personal. He feels humiliated by the alliance, and therefor goes out of his way to hurt them when possible. He protects his crew, because he believes that was what made the brown coats "better" than the alliance.
    It is not because he is showing he cares for others, its really quite selfish.

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    Those could also be tertiary Fe coming out. ENTPs are quite sympathetic, but in a weird, dysfunctional way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    Captain Malcolm Reynolds - ENTP
    Zoe Alleyne Washbourne - ISTJ
    Hoban Washbourne - ENFP
    Inara Serra - INFJ
    Jayne Cobb - ISTP
    Kaywinnit Lee Fry - ESFP
    Dr. Simon Tam - INTJ
    River Tam - INTP
    Shepherd Derrial Book - ISFJ

    Mal is without a doubt a ENTP, you have to look at all his attributes and qualities as a whole.
    His Ego-
    His Stubborness-
    His Humor-
    His ability to improvise
    His Wit
    His knack for debate
    His near constant one-upmanship
    His quirky sentimental loyalties - Dont mistake these for being a F type. They are very personal. He feels humiliated by the alliance, and therefor goes out of his way to hurt them when possible. He protects his crew, because he believes that was what made the brown coats "better" than the alliance.
    It is not because he is showing he cares for others, its really quite selfish.
    I can see this. In the movie River seemed like an unhealthy INFP . I do believe young River was an INTP. Simon is so INTJ to me it isn't even funny.

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    Pretty much my take. Although I don't think Simon is extremely INTJ -- He's a stuffy, ISTJ-ish INTJ.
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    Simon's humour definitely reminded me of the INTJ peeps i know. I lurrrrrve dry humour!

    Jayne cracked me up the most tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold Saxon View Post
    I've seen threads for typing the crew of the Serenity on other MBTI forums, but none on here. So, without further ado, here are my guesses:

    Captain Malcolm Reynolds - ENTP
    Zoe Alleyne Washbourne - ISTJ
    Hoban Washbourne - ENFP
    Inara Serra - ENFJ
    Jayne Cobb - ISTP
    Kaywinnit Lee Fry - ExFP (probably ESFP)
    Dr. Simon Tam - INTJ
    River Tam - a mentally disturbed INTP
    Shepherd Derrial Book - he's quite clearly hiding something, but the image he projects is one of an INFJ
    I think Captain Reynolds is an ISTJ, personally. He always reminded me of my ISTJ roommate.
    I think INFJ/INFP is more fitting for Inara. Remember, INFJ is another of those introverted types that come off extroverted simply because they are good with people.
    I'm not sure about Jayne.... he doesn't seem smart enough to be a thinker... though I'd hate to put him in the ISFP group with me. Haha.
    Kaylee is ISFP or ISTP like to me. Quiet, reserved, but bubbly and good with her hands.
    River Tam-yes, a disturbed INTP or an INTJ.
    Simon... hrm... Introvert... but the s/n is a little hard to pick out in him. He's smart... but caring... so is he more rational or emotional? I think he's definitely a J. I think he might be either an INFJ/INFP.
    Sheppard... INFJ.
    Hoban might very well be the only extrovert. ESTP?

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