INTJ "Intelligent" Myth

[SillySapienne]

I swear, it is precisely nights like these when I think this forum attracts certifiably insane people.

 

[Zarathustra]

Okay, well, I'd really enjoy hearing about it whenever you have the time. I don't mean that as a challenge--I'm genuinely curious to hear what you have to say about it, as I'm sure you're more familiar with Nietzsche than I am.

We will, buddy.

Of that much I can assure you.

 

[simulatedworld]

INTJs do tend to be intelligent, wanna cookie?

As for social and interpersonal intelligence, *in general*, like your INTP bruthas, y'all tend to suckus maximus.

Oh, but haven't you heard? Those aren't real forms of intelligence, because admitting that they exist would require narcissistic 12-year-old INTJs to admit that they aren't objectively superior to everyone.

Everyone knows the only real intelligence is the INTJ kind. That way, narcissistic 12-year-old INTJs can support their fragile egos by presuming that everyone else is an idiot.

It's just painful how well this guy fits the "dumbass INTJ stuck in narcissistic Ni+Fi loop" stereotype.

 

[Craft]

If INTJ's are "intelligent" what about its opposite, ESFP? Even stereotypes have possible connections.

 

[Ginkgo]

If INTJ's are "intelligent" what about its opposite, ESFP? Even stereotypes have possible connections.

 

[SillySapienne]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)

To Tater Typhoon, with love.

 

[Ginkgo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)

To Tater Typhoon, with love.

To Silly, reciprocated with peace.



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[simulatedworld]

Ok, enough about retards, let's talk about absolute truth.

What is absolute truth and how can it be perceived and differentiated from mere false perception of absolute truth?

 

[SillySapienne]

To Silly, reciprocated with peace.



Fractal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hahahahaa, been all about fractals (cognizantly) since 5th or 6th grade.



Fractals make me happy.

All warm and fuzzy on the inside.

 

[Zarathustra]

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[Lex Talionis]

Ok, enough about retards, let's talk about absolute truth.

What is absolute truth and how can it be perceived and differentiated from mere false perception of absolute truth?

Firstly, you must decide whether or not reality exists outside of your perception, or whether your perception of reality is all that there is. Most reasonable people choose the former.

Secondly, you need to realize that "absolute truth" itself is relative to its observer, and that it doesn't describe reality (the universe as it is with everything in it) unless you stipulate "absolute truth" to mean reality. However, defining reality and all that is in it will not answer "why?" questions, only "how?" Therefore, defining "absolute truth" is silly and shows the height of philosophical ignorance, especially considering that this is a question philosophers (people far more qualified and intelligent than anybody on this thread) have attempted to answer for millenia.

Why can we never answer this question? Because it is entirely contingent upon human perception, and any being (save an all knowing God that resides outside of the material universe, who himself is a human construct) humans can possibly conceive. Therefore, philosophy will always be limited due to human perception.

It disgusts me that you people are actually allowed to discuss Nietzsche or these cliched questions.

Do you believe that the next Martin Heidegger resides on this forum? I know that he doesn't, as it isn't me, so how could he?

 

[Ginkgo]

No.

For many reasons no, but primarily, wouldn't that be a reward?

/jk

(I can get all Fi on this, but I'm too tired)

Not saying there's something wrong with Jews. Just from Hitler's perspective... blah blah. But I guess he would be oblivious to his Jewishness... so. Nevermind.

 

[SillySapienne]

Firstly, you must decide whether or not reality exists outside of your perception, or whether your perception of reality is all that there is. Most reasonable people choose the former.

Secondly, you need to realize that "absolute truth" itself is relative to its observer, and that it doesn't describe reality (the universe as it is with everything in it) unless you stipulate "absolute truth" to mean reality. However, defining reality and all that is in it will not answer "why?" questions, only "how?" Therefore, defining "absolute truth" is silly and shows the height of philosophical ignorance, especially considering that this is a question philosophers (people far more qualified and intelligent than anybody on this thread) have attempted to answer for millenia.

Why can we never answer this question? Because it is entirely contingent upon human perception, and any being (save an all knowing God that resides outside of the material universe, who himself is a human construct) humans can possibly conceive. Therefore, philosophy will always be limited due to human perception.

I agree with everything you wrote, here.

Seriously.

 

[Ginkgo]

I agree with everything you wrote, here.

Seriously.

+1

Ok, I'm going to go shleep with the sheeple. G'night everyone.

 

[Zarathustra]

Actually, I'm past Heidegger too.

OK, maybe that's not true...

You get +1 for that post.

More like it, and less like your previous ones, and someone other than yourself might actually give a damn about your existence.

 

[simulatedworld]

It disgusts me that you people are actually allowed to discuss Nietzsche or these cliched questions.

...you're against the First Amendment right to free speech and you wonder why people think you're a fucking crackpot?

Do you believe that the next Martin Heidegger resides on this forum? I know that he doesn't, as it isn't me, so how could he?

How long is it going to take you to pick up on the fact that everyone here thinks you're a complete idiot and that you're just being toyed with?

I thought Te preferred accomplishing something with its discussions. I guess Ni+Fi doesn't know much about that, though.

 

[SillySapienne]

I just had an in depth conversation around a week ago about Why and How questions regarding physics/the physical universe, and human beings/the human experience.

We deduced pretty much what you wrote Lex, that's why I am kinda surprised/shocked.

 

[simulatedworld]

I just had an in depth conversation around a week ago about Why and How questions regarding physics/the physical universe, and human beings/the human experience.

We deduced pretty much what you wrote Lex, that's why I am kinda surprised/shocked.

Isn't that kind of at odds with what you and Z were saying earlier in the thread about discerning perception vs. absolute truth?

 

[SillySapienne]

Absolute Truth is the human word/concept of Reality.

 

[Zarathustra]

Also, they are not silly questions to ask..

There's a reason why philosophers have been asking them for centuries.

The meaning is in the questioning...