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    Quote Originally Posted by digesthisickness View Post
    wtf? i've been having what i thought was a very coherent conversation on my wall with cloud.

    then i see this. it's like there are two clouds.


    awwww



    HUH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post

    Someone whose ni is near retarded level speaks at a condenscendingly and telling someone to be more NT.
    Jaguar, you are a ESTJ, you are just faking around to be an NT.
    Anyone can see through it.
    Your reading comprehension is literally, zero.
    Cloud, take your ENTJ hatred elsewhere.
    All you cry about in this forum are ENTJs and Enneagram 8's.
    And calling me an ESTJ isn't going to work.

    Get a grip on yourself.

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    Back on topic bump.

    Probably has been mentioned before a bunch in other words but....

    It seems that NTs in general are obsessed with becoming more intelligent in an abstract thinking kind of way, and that INTJs are slightly the best at the NTs at showing such abstract thinking kind of intelligence by mastering the arbitrary tests that the general public sees as showing someone is smart in the "classic" sort of way.

    (Then I wonder, if these INTJs can also make sure this thread stays alive, since they has built skillz like that...)

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    Well, I just find this particular thread to be very reactionary. It was created solely in response to the "ESFP "stupid" myth" thread.
    "Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily."
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    Quote Originally Posted by digesthisickness View Post
    then i see this. it's like there are two clouds.
    The clouds are assembling...
    A good day for war.

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    I think one may safely assume that, except for the stupid INTJs, INTJs are intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    I think one may safely assume that, except for the stupid INTJs, INTJs are intelligent.
    Stop your sense-making!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmileyMan View Post
    Stop your sense-making!
    He forgot average ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    I think one may safely assume that, except for the stupid INTJs, INTJs are intelligent.
    Intelligence, what a touchy subject.

    I view wisdom, perceptiveness, introspection, reflection and innovative ways of thought (including imagination) as being manifestations of intelligence.

    At a baser level there is the ability to process and analyze information, and the faster and better you are at doing this, the more smerrt you are.

    I only get frustrated when Ts think they are inherently smarter than Fs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater Typhoon View Post
    He forgot average ones.
    Shhhh! No INTJ will ever admit to being average, not even the stupid ones.


    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    Intelligence, what a touchy subject.
    Yep. So touchy that you don't even have to call someone stupid, but simply explain something in a pedantic manner that they regard as condescending, and the intelligence wars start all over again.

    I view wisdom, perceptiveness, introspection, reflection and innovative ways of thought (including imagination) as being manifestations of intelligence.
    I completely agree. Different people have different talents. I think that what differentiates classical "IQ" intelligence from the rest is its rarity and that it is easily subjected to reliable tests. The tests, in turn, tend to favor INxx (introverts that live in their heads, thinking about stuff), and particularly INxJ (because of the speed at which Ni can intuitively solve a problem, and tests have time limits) and INTJ (since it is easier to test objective analysis than subjective - a limit of the testing tools, not of those being tested).

    At a baser level there is the ability to process and analyze information, and the faster and better you are at doing this, the more smerrt you are.

    I only get frustrated when Ts think they are inherently smarter than Fs.

    :steam:
    Well, Ts aren't inherently smarter, that's for sure. A salsa practice partner of mine is an INFP Ph.D. computer scientist whose job consists of way more fancy physics (modeling car engines with computer analysis) than anything I do these days.

    Brains is how you use them, not whether you're T or F.

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