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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Good advice, but it sounds more conducive to discovering what is useful to me in my particular life circumstances than to discovering absolute truth. Absolute truth would have to be universally true regardless of the conditions of my life or any external variables whatsoever.
    Are you interested in mathematics and/or physics, or the sciences in general?

    There exists univeral laws of nature, outside and inside and beside human beings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    Are you interested in mathematics and/or physics, or the sciences in general?

    There exists univeral laws of nature, outside and inside and beside human beings.

    Only insofar as we assume that our perceptions of the ways those laws of nature operate are not deceiving us.

    Of course, in the case of scientific laws of nature, I consider that highly improbable, but we're talking about absolute truth here, which is a tough pill to swallow.
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    Philosophy is best applied to answering questions about the human mind and its place in the known universe; not absolute questions that nobody can even begin constructing answers for.
    This is very true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    I will. In the mean time...a thought that just occurred to me:

    Perhaps your emphasis on absorbing that which is useful to me in my life is influenced by the Te perspective, while I (via Ti) seek truth in the pure, absolute sense, independent of any external variables.
    Ni very much seeks the same truth.

    That's really the root of the variance.

    Ni just handles it differently than Ti...

    (As your friend stated: "you guys just go about it all wrong")

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    This is very true.
    In that case, it would seem a fruitless endeavor to search for absolute truth. We should instead search for relative truths that seem useful and applicable to our lives as humans.

    I don't understand how these can be termed "absolute", though.
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    But Te probably then does say, "Let's take what Ni intuits, and go do something in the fucking world."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lex Talionis View Post
    Philosophy is best applied to answering questions about the human mind and its place in the known universe; not absolute questions that nobody can even begin constructing answers for.
    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    This is very true.
    It would be very true, if not for the fact that the human mind and its position in the universe are inherently and inevitably related to those questions...


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    "deceiving us"

    Say what?

    Nature doesn't give a fuck about human beings.

    It just is.

    However, human beings, which exist within and as part of nature, and the natural world do such things as engage in acts of deception.

    I'm too rusty on my science to really engage in this.

    We are nature-products who have the opportunity to see/perceive/manipulate the nature within which we're composed of, and encompassed in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    But Te probably then does say, "Let's take what Ni intuits, and go do something in the fucking world."
    Haha, and that is something I wish I had, sometimes.

    For me, Ne+Ti says, "Let's push as many buttons as we can and then condense all the resultant information into a convenient internal model!"

    Getting something useful done is...often beside the point. =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    In that case, it would seem a fruitless endeavor to search for absolute truth. We should instead search for relative truths that seem useful and applicable to our lives as humans.

    I don't understand how these can be termed "absolute", though.
    See my post above.

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