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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I used to think I knew everything; then I thought I knew everything when I thought no one knew anything; now I think that I know something since I know that no one knows whether they know anything, even if they know something.

    - Zarathustra, Myspace profile
    Haha. That's amusing. I guess the only thing we can really know is that there is a great deal we do not and will never know.

    So given this, how is it that you're able to separate perception from reality? Isn't it kind of central to the Ni perspective that truth is but a frame of reference, and that our perceptual biases will always prevent us from experiencing absolute truth?

    P.S.,

    Let's all stop engaging this moron. Maybe he'll go away and continue masturbating to Glenn Beck speeches or whatever the hell it is he does.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Well, he certainly wasn't a scientist.

    Do you believe in a transcendent reality?

    A reality that is and can only be glimpsed at by our mere and vastly lacking sensors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    INTJs do tend to be intelligent, wanna cookie?

    As for social and interpersonal intelligence, *in general*, like your INTP bruthas, y'all tend to suckus maximus.
    Don't compare INTJs to INTPs, as we are not at all similar. INTPs are the wishful thinkers who tend to blow hot air, and express their opinions despite their vacuous content - much like their ENTP cousins, actually.

    So, please continue to be intellectually superior as you masturbate to anime on a perpetual and pathetic basis while ESFPs are having the time of their lives, and getting plenty laid, too.
    Can and will do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    I would like that, actually. I don't doubt your superior familiarity with Nietzsche; I just find it strange that an INTJ who's big enough on Nietzsche to use Zarathustra as his handle would believe in the idea of absolute truth in the first place.



    NO HE'S NOT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR INTJs TO BE DUMB!!!!!!!!!!
    See my two last posts.

    (Not the one's about the ingrate)

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    Absolute truth encompasses all that was, is, and will be.

    It is everything, in every thing.

    Whether we perceive it or not is somewhat irrelevant, regardless, reality exists.
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    "That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is."

    Veritatem dies aperit

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    So given this, how is it that you're able to separate perception from reality? Isn't it kind of central to the Ni perspective that truth is but a frame of reference, and that our perceptual biases will always prevent us from experiencing absolute truth?
    Sim, we've got plenty of time (at another time) to get into that one.

    Let's just say this is one of my areas of strength, as I've obsessed over it for about eight years now (i.e., since first reading Nietzsche).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    Well, he certainly wasn't a scientist.

    Do you believe in a transcendent reality?
    Yes.

    A reality that is and can only be glimpsed at by our mere and vastly lacking sensors?
    No. You are viewing a holographic version of this reality. And if you've ever seen a 3D movie, you know that holographs are illusory.

    EDIT: Luckily, the holograph suffices for surviving in the reality itself, which suggests that it is not dissimilar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    Absolute truth encompasses all that was, is, and will be.

    It is everything, in every thing.

    Whether we perceive it or not is somewhat irrelevant, regardless, reality exists.
    And the lady is quite right, I might add.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Yes, I know all these quotes, and am very familiar with each and every one of them.

    Hence, my warning.

    Because I'm past them.

    As Nietzsche wanted the philosophers of the future to be.
    Okay, well, I'd really enjoy hearing about it whenever you have the time. I don't mean that as a challenge--I'm genuinely curious to hear what you have to say about it, as I'm sure you're more familiar with Nietzsche than I am.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Aiite, friends, I'm out!

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