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    Here's something for you to think about: you're supposedly an ENTP, more rational and able with systems than me, the irrational ENFJ. Yet, you completely fall on your face with regards to logic, philosophy and epistemology.

    Either people are:
    A) by definition, a certain type by self report
    B) some other "true" type (that cant be scientifically measured)

    People's self reports can change or be "wrong" by comparison to other points in time. This is fine. However, you threaten your credibility by then claiming that there is a "type essence" that you have access to with scientific precision. This is impossible minus MAGIC. Without it being a sort of measurement, how can you ever say your measurement is better than anyone else's minus having a judge decide? BTW, there is no MBTI judge! By what measurable mechanism would you access this true "measurement" of anything but your own type? This "type essence" wouldnt be something you can repeatably use a ruler against, because peoples own thoughts are THEIR OWN THOUGHTS..

    Thank you for your cooperation.
    Last edited by Kasper; 02-10-2010 at 06:25 AM. Reason: Aside to OP removed as they cannot respond atm

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    It's odd that with all your knowledge of MBTI, you seem reluctant to use it for what it's truly great at: to understand yourself, understand your weaknesses and strenghts and to actually use this information to improve yourself instead of projecting onto others. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to undermine you or what not, but I'm genuinly curious why you would communicate in such a clearly inefficient way which is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way, when you claim to understand how people work through MBTI. Or isn't self-development part of your interest in MBTI? How is it that MBTI hasn't taught you how to communicate with others socially in an efficient way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by greed View Post

    And your name is yellow, so, whoops
    Yellow? Anyone see Orange?

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    I see Amber

    [edit] although if I push my thumbs into my eyes for a few minutes, I can see purple

    O_O
    Hello

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    I see dead people.

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    What makes someone good at categorizing colors?

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    A great graphics card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    A great graphics card.
    Did you get out of jail recently??? I missed your posts!!! welcome back?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPER View Post
    Mostly because I understand mbti, enneagram, and variants. I really don't think you can type properly without all these factors. Variants and EType being just as important as mbti. For example; an estj 3 sp/sx and a estj 8w7 soc/sp will seem drastically different. Without understanding etype and stackings in addition to mbti, you'd probably mistype that ESTJ 3 sp/sx because they're less typical of the type. I'm quite unimpressed with the typing Ive seen particularly in this sub forum. I'm not saying everyone here is terrible at typing. There may be someone whos better at it than I am. But I havnt seen it yet. People aren't even getting the temperaments correct. Not too long ago I saw someone say Lindsey Lohan was ESFP but also couldve been an INFJ. WTF? Those types are completely opposite.
    Hmm. I'm not sure why this is such a controversial assertion for everybody to accept. To me, it makes sense: holistic evaluation > single factor evaluation. The Big Five, for example, has more scientific backing than MBTI has ever achieved. I also find the Enneagram to be extremely useful. MBTI is just one piece of the puzzle. 'Cuz really...do you people all believe that humanity can be broken down into 16 personality types? Pfft. Come on! I'd say infinite combinations exist. All you see in MBTI are broad stroke trends and ball park categorization, poor test-retest validity, and non-falsifiable assertions. People tend to demand more specificity out of MBTI than it is reliably capable of yielding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Puppy View Post
    Did you get out of jail recently??? I missed your posts!!! welcome back?!
    Yes, ma'am. I got out Jan. 29th somewhere between London time and Tokyo time. Lol.
    Thanks Puppy!

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