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  • INTP

    74 18.09%
  • INTJ

    121 29.58%
  • INFP

    2 0.49%
  • INFJ

    2 0.49%
  • ISTP

    4 0.98%
  • ISTJ

    4 0.98%
  • ISFP

    2 0.49%
  • ISFJ

    5 1.22%
  • ESFJ

    6 1.47%
  • ESFP

    5 1.22%
  • ESTJ

    3 0.73%
  • ESTP

    1 0.24%
  • ENFJ

    1 0.24%
  • ENFP

    1 0.24%
  • ENTJ

    25 6.11%
  • ENTP

    153 37.41%
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  1. #141
    ^He pronks, too! Magic Poriferan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Aw, I wanted to see if she could guess. Anyway, yeah, I'm ENTP.
    Sorry.
    You had worn the ENTP label too long for that old trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Sorry.
    You had worn the ENTP label too long for that old trick.
    Yeah, but she didn't know that.

    I guess I shouldn't turn a 'type house' thread into a 'type nocapszy' thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    INTJ:
    Do whatever works.

    ENTP:
    Try whatever.

    Anyway, I work with formally tested ENTPs and INTJs (closely with the ENTPs - at a distance from INTJs). The most sarcastic, bitter and unapproachable ENTP is on par with the nicest INTJ I know... and house share nothing with the ENTPs I know - friends or co workers. I can understand, if disagree, with the E vs I bit (ENTJ vs INTJ) because of his screwed up life... but the ENTP thing makes no sense.
    Can you identify where the mislogic is? Or are you going based on commonality? If that's the case, then you're stretching what type theory is/does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Can you identify where the mislogic is? Or are you going based on commonality? If that's the case, then you're stretching what type theory is/does.
    You are also observing his behaviour and assigning it to a type. The filter between observation and interpretation is what is being disputed. Commonality is all we have (be it with what is expressed and assumed to be part of the functions, or via the test, or trait measurements... which in theory should all be the same.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    You are also observing his behaviour and assigning it to a type.
    You are incorrect. I'm observing behavior, assigning it to a cognitive function, and then going from there to decide type (since that's what type is determined by).
    The filter between observation and interpretation is what is being disputed.
    I realize that, but I think that if those who were questioning really knew what to look for in terms of the functions then there would be far less question.
    Commonality is all we have (be it with what is expressed and assumed to be part of the functions, or via the test, or trait measurements... which in theory should all be the same.)
    In theory yes, however it's so difficult to create a test that collects accurate information since there are such things as 'self serving bias' which says that people will ascribe traits to their own persona if they view them as positive. That's why there's necessity to learn what nuances to search for when differentiating functions and attitudes of those functions.

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    My belief is that you and anyone else who says INTJ are going based not on the functions, but your experience with ENTPs/INTJs.

    It's not enough to LOOK like an INTJ. You have to use Ni and Te, and House does not. At least not avidly.

    That's what type theory is. Not common threads of behavior observed across a large percentage of a particular type. There are differences, among those of the same type persuasion. That's because the functions can yield very different behavior. They driving force behind them is the same though.

    By employment of the same dogma you use, I could easily say "The INTJ thing doesn't make any sense" and it would carry just as much weight as your comment. I'm asking for specific points of mislogic.

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    Before I put my point of view here, I should admit a few things:

    I am a doctor.

    Colleagues often comment on how I startle them by 1. remembering unusual patterns and case studies in medicine 2. coming up with plausible diagnoses that they hadn't considered, because they look for horses but I'm aware that just occasionally the guy down the road decided to import a zebra.

    I'm an INTJ, so naturally I'm going to argue for my own type.



    House is an INTJ who has been partially socialised by his training.

    Most of you are tending to the 'INTJs don't need anyone' argument, forgetting that actually INTJs do, they just have 10ft thick walls around them which makes it look as though they don't.

    To become a consultant in a major western hospital you have to teach, so much so that those of us who would generally avoid that sort of interaction become first desensitised to it, and then (sometimes) start to require it. It is also one of the few rewards for the logical mind - an audience of almost-peers agreeing that your deductions were correct. INTJs like to be recognised as right by those who have a similar knowledge base. In House's case another doctor at his level would work in another specialty, ie not have the same area of expertise, and so any recognition from them would be of no value. His juniors are heading towards his knowledge base, so he does get something from them as an audience. He has consequently acquired a set of behaviours associated with coming up with a diagnosis which actually involves a significant degree of performance to an audience. He will therefore start to perform to those who are not his peers, because he's actually well inside his own head, and by now the audience can be anybody.

    His friendship with Wilson is classic, too. Wilson, though often temporarily hurt by things House says, has the ability to look past them to the underlying human being. He knows House likes him; he knows House would bite his tongue out rather than say the words. House's behaviour in concealing the answering machine message and making Wilson stay on in his flat is typical INTJ 'I'll do what I think is best for you no matter what you may feel about it' behaviour. Where their friendship staggers is when House's need to do what he knows is right clashes with his loyalty to Wilson. Right wins out; Wilson knows it always will, and this is the one permanent crack in an otherwise solid friendship. This is the point on which Wilson has to give if their friendship is to survive. On the other hand, there is enough trust on House's part for him to let Wilson see that he can and does empathise with the distress he's caused. Though perhaps most sensors might find that too subtle and insist that 'he doesn't care' when in fact he cares too much - these are the situations where INTJs become so distressed that they can withdraw completely and become quite dissociated from reality.

    House follows his own book - it's a deeply logical thought process, trying to match symptoms and signs to an underlying pathology. It's Holmes, as always - 'whatever you're left with, however implausible, must be the truth.' He doesn't use other people's books/thought pathways/logic, because these have clearly failed. He may be using what look like intuitive leaps (I was once told that my thinking was so lateral I'd lateraled myself out of the window) but in fact it's simply a mix of logic and statistics (also known as experience), combined with deep expertise and a willingness to look for things that are very unusual.

    INTJs also indulge in solitary sensory experiences, be it standing in a shower for hours or riding at speed on a motorbike. It's the rare time in which they let their thought processes idle and give free rein to the feelings of the moment.

    He also left a woman because she did something she'd promised not to. He knows she did the right thing, but she broke a promise. He can't trust her any more.

    INTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Aw, I wanted to see if she could guess. Anyway, yeah, I'm ENTP.
    Thank you. (I thought you were being INTJish)

    I'm still learning here!
    These wrong type IDs give me the wrong impression or make me think what I already believe is wrong.
    It gets me all confuzzled!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Your little drawing violated my delicate sensibilities,
    but then I had to laugh (the INTJ in me laughed).

    You did draw that?

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    Oops - the poker group.

    I gave that one some thought and then forgot to mention it. I do meet (and talk to) strangers in odd situations. I think it's because people can be quite fascinated by INTJs - we have a lot of good traits: Clever (in specific areas), often busy with lots of things, always interested to talk to someone who knows a lot about an area we are not expert in, we don't offload huge amounts of personal information on people we barely know. Usually someone else has to start the conversation, but if they're intelligent, quick on the uptake etc and I see them regularly in a non-threatening social situation, I might agree to meeting in another social arena with firm boundaries. I'm not a poker player, but if I were then that would be ideal - a situation with rules and a fixed end point. And I'd have it in my house so that I was in control - I'd feel uncomfortable in someone else's house.

    Still INTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    My belief is that you and anyone else who says INTJ are going based not on the functions, but your experience with ENTPs/INTJs.

    It's not enough to LOOK like an INTJ. You have to use Ni and Te, and House does not. At least not avidly.
    No. The most prominent INTJ in my life is my older brother, and he doesn't act like House in a lot of ways.
    I will admit that there are mechanics to the MBTI that I dislike and don't even particularly believe.
    That could make a very big difference in our opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Thank you. (I thought you were being INTJish)
    I'm still learning here!
    These wrong type IDs give me the wrong impression or make me think what I already believe is wrong.
    It gets me all confuzzled!
    So far, I haven't been thrown for a loop by anyone's disguise.
    It's because they always pick something three or four letters off, and that's just way too easy.
    I seem to be always capable of guessing a person's type within a one letter margin of error.
    Go to sleep, iguana.


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