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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    How can anyone not get INFJ for Donnie?
    Explain where you got "J" from (aside from any rigid behavior attributed to a mental illness), and we'll listen.

    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    Why? "The voices told me to burn down his house" seems like stereotypical Ni/Se behaviour. Especially the mysterious doomsday prophesy fulfilling itself.
    Why is that Ni/Se?
    He's also possibly got a mental illness. Anything said in context of that can't easily be used to justify a type read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Why is that Ni/Se?
    Well, Ni is about foresight and is associated with "mystical thinking" after all "Ni told me to Se the shit out of that statue".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Explain where you got "J" from (aside from any rigid behavior attributed to a mental illness), and we'll listen.



    Why is that Ni/Se?
    He's also possibly got a mental illness. Anything said in context of that can't easily be used to justify a type read.
    Ok. I refuse to accept the mental illness analysis for Donnie Darko.

    Clearly he has stepped into a hole in the space/time continuum, and he is able to change the past so that his girlfriend won't die.

    I don't see the mental illness in it. It's a red herring sub-plot to build suspense, not the actual meaning of the film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    Why? "The voices told me to burn down his house" seems like stereotypical Ni/Se behaviour. Especially the mysterious doomsday prophesy fulfilling itself.

    [youtube=VWJPa0bvWnM][/youtube]
    You know what's weird? I do see the Ni now. I was actually thinking about it even before I watched this clip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Explain where you got "J" from (aside from any rigid behavior attributed to a mental illness), and we'll listen.
    Underdeveloped secondary Je function. Ni+Ti, extreme introversion, etc.

    J types don't have to have strong extroverted Judgment functions; they just have to fit one of the function molds that puts Je in the top two...it could easily be underdeveloped and yield to the less efficient tertiary, though.
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    I thought Donnie's behavior in the Love/Fear class was pretty archetypal of Ti expressing itself through shadow Fe. He gets extremely worked up, not for any idealistic reasons but simply because he thinks the arguments are logically incorrect. Add to that his lack of poise, randomness, and aura of being in the clouds, and I think we're dealing with an INTP.
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    i tend to hover around intp for donnie

    things like:
    he's so aggressive about his reasoning and his thoughts. he launches into his argument in front of the class without stopping until it's finished. he does this when they're talking about the smurfs too, his friends ignorance made him angry.
    he doesn't follow leaders like jim cunninghan
    disrespect of the religious teacher (although i recognise not all intps are irreligious)
    doesn't put his hand up in class but has a good answer when he's asked
    gets aggrevated by people like jim cunninghan
    awkward about asking out the girl but was very frank about it - but how quickyl he asked her out makes me think he's infp. intps dont warm up do the idea of dating someone so quickly (i don't think)
    doesn't consult other people when he's making actions
    has a deep relationship with frank without it being all emotive. Ts do this.
    he laughed when he traveled back in time = holisitic/intuitive understanding (?)
    has no respect for rules or authority
    is under the radar (except for his illness) but is still a trouble maker
    deep thinker, confuses the physics teacher, convinces the english teacher of his perspective of the book
    not socially extravagent , when he's found on the golf course he just sort of mumbles and leaves
    doesn't show much empathy and doesn't take drama, stigmas seriously, he's scolded at the dinner table for his joke reguarding his sister.
    in one of the deleted scenes he kind of has a D and M with his dad and while he does it, he keeps looking down at the leaves his raking, he cant meet the dad in the eyes. when im spilling my guts (or attempting to) im like this.
    he is able to empathise with cherita by putting on her ear muffs = he's not judgmental and generally open to things and simply curious.
    existential preocupations

    kinda sorta..

    i'm open to other suggestions.

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    Everybody keeps saying INxP, but that's an Ne type.

    Donnie is dripping with Ni dominance; you just see Ti because he emphasizes the tertiary over the auxiliary.


    Quote Originally Posted by Edge View Post
    disrespect of the religious teacher (although i recognise not all intps are irreligious)
    Nor is Donnie. "Not if you follow God's path!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Nor is Donnie. "Not if you follow God's path!"
    He's a character in a movie. He's also preordained to behave a certain way, and his movie character is not consistent, and he's suffering a mental illness.

    Hence, typing him with certainty is not possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    He's a character in a movie. He's also preordained to behave a certain way, and his movie character is not consistent, and he's suffering a mental illness.

    Hence, typing him with certainty is not possible.
    Typing anyone with certainty is not possible. That's what happens when types are up to subjective interpretation.

    How does it help to point this out, exactly?
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