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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    What is the SP obsession with Keirsey? Is it because he types every single artistic person as SP? There ARE iNuitive artists.
    I think it's simpler than that. Keirsey is an INTP. INTPs simply lack the ability to read others well, almost without exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    Yeah, I'm not a Keirsey fan either



    I think Brando may be SP also
    I sound like a broken record, of course, but one who extroverts Ne cannot be an SP. Brando did. Read or watch his interviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fecal McAngry View Post
    I think it's simpler than that. Keirsey is an INTP. INTPs simply lack the ability to read others well, almost without exception.
    No folk typology!
    If we're generalizing, ESTJs have got to be the worst at typing others...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fecal McAngry View Post
    I sound like a broken record, of course, but one who extroverts Ne cannot be an SP. Brando did. Read or watch his interviews.
    I wasn't very attached to my typing of him, so I'll take your word for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fecal McAngry View Post
    I think it's simpler than that. Keirsey is an INTP. INTPs simply lack the ability to read others well, almost without exception.
    Kidding, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    Kidding, right?
    Not at all. On this forum, for example, INTPs generally among the best at theoretical knowledge of typology, and among the weakest at actually typing people.

    Of course, that's what you'd expect, theoretically...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fecal McAngry View Post
    I think it's simpler than that. Keirsey is an INTP. INTPs simply lack the ability to read others well, almost without exception.
    I have a broad social circle of many people- ENFJs, ESFPs, ESFJs, INFPs, INFJs, ESTPs, ISTJs, INTJs...

    and the INTP is THE BEST at reading people. Without question. He understands people the quickest, knows their motivations, their weaknesses, their soft spots... he's absolutely amazing.

    MBTI is about preference, not ability.

    That said, I do see Brando as an INFP. I can relate to the Ne, and I can see the Fi. It's all there.
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    I think Meryl Streep is an infj, not an infp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    I think Meryl Streep is an infj, not an infp.
    I think so too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aphrodite-gone-awry View Post
    I think Meryl Streep is an infj, not an infp.
    She doesn't extrovert feeling; it's very clear in interviews that Ne is her dominant extroverted function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visaisahero View Post
    I have a broad social circle of many people- ENFJs, ESFPs, ESFJs, INFPs, INFJs, ESTPs, ISTJs, INTJs...

    and the INTP is THE BEST at reading people. Without question. He understands people the quickest, knows their motivations, their weaknesses, their soft spots... he's absolutely amazing.
    If that is the case, he's either exceptional for that type, or not an INTP. Empathy is not exactly an INTP strong suit, nor are the typological preferences which allow one to compensate for it to some extent present in an INTP.

    That having been said, I know one ENTP who is very good at typing others, underlining that this is to some extent a learned skill.

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