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    Do not underestimate our minds. What I mean by this is that the blind spot can be overcome. Know that we have the ability to willingly change our personalities and therefore we are allowed to see the views and perspectives of the other personality types. I'm not so sure if we can permanently change it though.
    When I was seeing an INTJ, he told me that he had to change his usual way of perceiving, he became quite sensitive to every little thing. He said, though, that it'd be exhausting to do that all the time.

    Of course, I believe we can learn new skills and even, traits. I have noticed that whenever I get to know another type well, I can often mimic their characteristics, if I like them, that is. I even talk like they do, which is very strange to me. I don't know why that happens, except I find it great fun to pick someone apart and learn who they are at the core. That's why I can't watch movie after movie because I absorb so much and try to analyze everything. Even the less cerebral movies like Yes, Man, I gained moral inspirations from, hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebe View Post
    I have noticed that whenever I get to know another type well, I can often mimic their characteristics, if I like them, that is. I even talk like they do, which is very strange to me.
    Isn't it more like, specific people rather than type of people? I'm certain I've always started to pick up ways of speech etc. of people who I was very close to and spent a lot of time with, but it's only specific people, not whole "type", and it was happening to me that long before I learned about typology. (I guess it happens to everyone, actually.) But it's true that (for example) the way I interact with my NF friends is fundamentally different from the way I interact with my NT friends, if you meant this.

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    Ted- INFP (resembles ISFP, but he's a future planner)
    Marshall- ENFP (he kinda reminds me of me)
    Lilly- ESFJ (she's definitely dominant Fe, could be ENFJ but I'm leaning towards S)
    Barney- ESTP (ESTJ is close, but ESTP's take good care of the appearance of their bodies and home too. Barney isn't as uptight and rigid as an ESTJ IMO)
    Robin- ENTP (not 100% sure, but it makes sense to me. Could she be INTJ? She seems a little more drained by social outings than the others)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Space_Oddity View Post
    I'm glad we reached some consensus. Actually, I can see where you're coming from with Barney being an ESTJ; my boyfriend is an ISTJ and he's exactly the 'Suit up!' kind of guy. But I still think that Barney accepted this image primarily to look cool and to be able to carry out his evil plans more effectively. I'd say that the video you linked here screams Te, not Si. But he certainly shows some S qualities, so ExTJ would fit (if it existed, which is arguable).

    About Ted, I'm starting to see your point and it's possible you're quite right. He certainly does show a lot of Ne, and often kind of 'forgets' about his Fi. But I still think it'd make him just a mild extrovert, and very phlegmatic at that.
    We have reached a conclusion. Barney is an EXTJ.

    I do see why people say Ted is an introvert. He's not really the 'AAAH' type. But I've also seen this in a lot of extroverts. Especially more of the Fi extroverts. But yes, he could be a mild extrovert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebe View Post
    When I was seeing an INTJ, he told me that he had to change his usual way of perceiving, he became quite sensitive to every little thing. He said, though, that it'd be exhausting to do that all the time.

    Of course, I believe we can learn new skills and even, traits. I have noticed that whenever I get to know another type well, I can often mimic their characteristics, if I like them, that is. I even talk like they do, which is very strange to me. I don't know why that happens, except I find it great fun to pick someone apart and learn who they are at the core. That's why I can't watch movie after movie because I absorb so much and try to analyze everything. Even the less cerebral movies like Yes, Man, I gained moral inspirations from, hahaha.
    Yes, I know a few people like you who likes to dig deep. I usually try to avoid them because they can be quite dangerous. For example, the other day I found an ENTJ acting all snugly because of the INFJs.
    INTJs usually change their ways of perceiving in order to understand the person communicating to us. It can, however, make us look stupid and we do try and avoid it.

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    Ted is an INFP. Ted is an introvert, not an extrovert. He doesn't really like to go out and meet new people and never likes it when Barney suggests anything new and unusual outside his comfort-zone. He's idealistic and romantic and future-oriented. He can be a little bit stubborn sometimes, when he refuses to take his friends' advice about dating (like when he messages the girl, or goes out with his ex). Definitely internally driven, by his own ideals. He loves philosophy.

    Marshall is an ENFJ. He's an honorable man, much more so than Ted who is a little bit more flexible. He has strong ideals (NF) and sticks by them with as little compromise as possible (J). This was what made it so difficult for him to take up the corporate job- which he eventually only did because he wanted to make Lily happy. One of the most telling episodes was the one where he tried to fit in with Barney's colleagues, and decided that Lily's happiness was more important to him. That's ENFJ decision-making right there. He's very moral and responsible.

    Robin is an ISTJ. I cannot understand some of you see Robin as an ENTx. She is THE most introverted person in the main 5-person group. She keeps secrets to herself. She hates to go out, especially to the mall. (Hehe.) Her "crazy antics" do not make her an extrovert; she's actually very reserved and enjoys time on her own- doing things like shooting guns and smoking in the bathtub. Consider how difficult she found it to share an apartment with Ted. She has 5 dogs, which is quite an SJ trait. She's extremely uncomfortable with sharing emotions (or food) and takes very long to open up to people. She gets very uncomfortable at other people's "weird-isms". She can be brutally honest, or just plain brutal think of how she made Lily bring out the drum at the Hawaiian restaurant. Her J is a dramatic foil to Ted's P- she is decisive and isn't very comfortable with ambiguity. Her S type is emphasized by her love of sensory experiences, like travelling or getting into a relationship with Enrique Iglesias' character. She also tends to want to have her way, without compromise.

    Lily is an ESFx. She's definitely S type- look at her ridiculous obsession with shopping and other sensory delights. She's also definitely F type- her T is very weak and undeveloped, which I find very annoying because she can be really illogical and unreasonable. She can't keep secrets. She's really childish. She can be possessive and selfish in a J way, but also indecisive and random in a P way. I can't stand her most of the time. >_>

    Barney is just Awesome! (ExTx) You can't type a guy like that. Very complex. Early Barney (before the Suit era) was probably an INFJ. Idealistic about being a hippie and in love and helping out in Nicaragua. Suit-era Barney comes across to me as an ESTx. You could argue that he's actually an INFJ who pretends very hard to be an extrovert, but that's a little bit too complex for my liking. He needs company, and validation- which is why he slept with 200 women. That suggests S-type to me. He's a little bit too repetitive to be an N-type. I want to say that he's an ESTP. He reminds me a little bit of WWE's The Rock with all his catchphrases! Then and again, his conformity to suits, etc makes him seem like a J.

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    I agree with all these typings except Lily. The more I watch this show the more I'm convinced she's an ENFJ. That isn't mutually exclusive with "obsession with sensory delights" or inability to keep secrets at all, and many episodes suggest she's an NF (she's very oriented towards future and her dreams and idealistic visions of how the world "should be"). Some people seem to think she's an ENFP, but I definitely see her as a Fe-dom rather than Ne-dom. Look at her job in the kindergarten; she really loves to nurture and discipline people, while she practices the latter even with grown ups. She also has kind of an aura of independence and passion about her, which I associate more with NFJ women than NFP women. I think her and Marshall are basically the same kind of people, but Marshall is more on the sweet side and Lily is more on the mean side.

    And Barney is an ENTJ mimicking as an ESTP, imo. His "Nicaragua Era" reminds me a lot of some ENTJ females I know - one doesn't always need to be an NF to be idealistic.
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    Gazed at earth, finally keen,
    As the rabbit at the stoat,
    Till the earth was sky,
    Sky that was green,
    And brown clouds passed
    Like chestnut leaves along the ground.

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    Marshall: ENFP
    Ted: ISFJ
    Barney: ENFJ (his plans are all people-focused--he orchestrates people, not anything else--plus, remember the flashback when he was about to join the Peace Corps?)
    Robyn: ESTP
    Lily: xsFx
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    Marshall ENFJ
    initiating and directing = in charge; affiliative and motive = NF.

    Lilly ISTJ
    responding and directing = chart the course; affiliative and structure = SJ.

    Ted ISTJ
    responding and directing = chart the course; affiliative and structure = SJ.

    Robin ISTP
    responding and directing = chart the course; pragmatic and motive = SP.

    Barney ESTP
    initiating and directing = In charge; pragmatic and motive = SP.


    Its a TV show, so of course the ISTJs wont be the card board cutouts that you guys mistakenly believe ISTJs to be...
    And yes, everyone on this show is directing. Its partly what makes the dynamic so funny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space_Oddity View Post
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    I agree with all these typings except Lily. The more I watch this show the more I'm convinced she's an ENFJ. That isn't mutually exclusive with "obsession with sensory delights" or inability to keep secrets at all, and many episodes suggest she's an NF (she's very oriented towards future and her dreams and idealistic visions of how the world "should be"). Some people seem to think she's an ENFP, but I definitely see her as a Fe-dom rather than Ne-dom. Look at her job in the kindergarten; she really loves to nurture and discipline people, while she practices the latter even with grown ups. She also has kind of an aura of independence and passion about her, which I associate more with NFJ women than NFP women. I think her and Marshall are basically the same kind of people, but Marshall is more on the sweet side and Lily is more on the mean side.

    And Barney is an ENTJ mimicking as an ESTP, imo. His "Nicaragua Era" reminds me a lot of some ENTJ females I know - one doesn't always need to be an NF to be idealistic.
    I can agree with that! Lily's NF does show through in her fantasies of her children and painting and such. I know an ENFJ who used to be like her when he (yes, he >_>) was younger and more immature. I can agree with Barney, too. He's been given such complexity and range of character that it's hard to type him. On one hand he seems superficially shallow but we learn time and time again that he actually is a man of depth, hiding behind a persona he created to perhaps come to terms with (or avoid) his personal issues. Neil Patrick Harris described him as a guy who hates to be lonely.

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