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    I confess I've only watched series 1 and 2 of HIMYM so far, so I don't have the whole picture yet, but these are my opinions:

    Ted - INFP (so far he represents a typical INFP male to me; very idealistic and romantic, dreamer, over-thinking everything and not actually acting, at least at the beginning)
    Barney - ENTJ (yes, he now lives in the 'here and now', but he used to be rather idealistic and wanted to change the world at the beginning, just like all of my ENTJ acquaintances actually, before becoming thoroughly cynical. I'd say he consciously tries to resemble a successful ESTJ, but he's an NT planner deep down)
    Robin - ISTJ (*almost* Ted's polar opposite, very 'down to earth'; she does have some N qualities, but it's perfectly possible for a Sensor to have high intuition)
    Marshall - ENFJ
    Lily - also ENFJ

    (I'd say that ENF is clear for them, but it really seems to me they're overall very similar people, and Fe with occasional Ni screams from both of them)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space_Oddity View Post
    I confess I've only watched series 1 and 2 of HIMYM so far, so I don't have the whole picture yet, but these are my opinions:

    Ted - INFP (so far he represents a typical INFP male to me; very idealistic and romantic, dreamer, over-thinking everything and not actually acting, at least at the beginning)
    Barney - ENTJ (yes, he now lives in the 'here and now', but he used to be rather idealistic and wanted to change the world at the beginning, just like all of my ENTJ acquaintances actually, before becoming thoroughly cynical. I'd say he consciously tries to resemble a successful ESTJ, but he's an NT planner deep down)
    Robin - ISTJ (*almost* Ted's polar opposite, very 'down to earth'; she does have some N qualities, but it's perfectly possible for a Sensor to have high intuition)
    Marshall - ENFJ
    Lily - also ENFJ

    (I'd say that ENF is clear for them, but it really seems to me they're overall very similar people, and Fe with occasional Ni screams from both of them)
    Ted's not an Introvert. He is not the type to be alone. And I doubt any INFP would be quick to say I love you. He is the sociable type.
    Judge barney by how he is, not how he was. He is not an N.
    I can agree with Robin
    I agree with Marshall
    Lily is more of a P. She always wants to keep all options open whereas Martial wants things to be done as soon as possible

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    That's why I love INTJs, so stimulating.
    Ah-hem.

    Barney:

    "ENTJs have a natural tendency to marshall and direct. This may be expressed with the charm and finesse of a world leader or with the insensitivity of a cult leader. The ENTJ requires little encouragement to make a plan." - "Suit up!"

    "ESTJs are content to enforce "the rules," often dictated by tradition or handed down from a higher authority." - Barney is very, very innovative, unique and creative. His outrageous powerpoints! His thorough over-the-top arrogance resembles ESTP, not ESTJ at all. ESTJs are not so afraid of commitment as Barney.

    "ESTJs have an acute sense for orthodoxy. Much of their evaluation of persons and activities reflects their strong sense of what is "normal" and what isn't. ESTJ humor is frequently centered around something or someone being off center or behaving abnormally."

    Barney's humor is SO off-center and abnormal. He is himself Abnormal. And yes, I agree, he was idealistic and a sucker for love like NTJ types. And after that incident, he is now forever jaded and lives in the moment.

    "The family likewise is a central focus for ESTJs, and attendance at such events as weddings, funerals and family reunions is obligatory." Barney is always, always complaining about supporting his friends, such as Robin and Lily, and their incompetent talents. And I can't see him going to such mundane congregations out of a sense of duty. If he does, he is up to something very naughty.

    "ESTJs promote the work ethic. Power, position and prestige should be worked for and earned. Laziness is rarely viewed with ambivalence nor benevolence by this type." I am pretty sure Barney sits around and shreds things (like his expensive cell phones) and sleeps with women and plays pranks rather than work. Remember that episode when he and Marshall, when he convinced Marshall, to do outrageous things to this guy from the office across his window...ooof, he is no ESTJ.

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    Ted:

    "ENFPs have a great deal of zany charm, which can ingratiate them to the more stodgy types in spite of their unconventionality. They are outgoing, fun, and genuinely like people. As SOs/mates they are warm, affectionate (l ots of PDA), and disconcertingly spontaneous. However, attention span in relationships can be short; ENFPs are easily intrigued and distracted by new friends and acquaintances, forgetting about the older ones for long stretches at a time. Less mature ENFPs may need to feel they are the center of attention all the time, to reassure them that everyone thinks they're a wonderful and fascinating person."

    - Ted comes off as very nerdy/dorky. Pretty sure he is teased by his friends for being un-savvy.
    - Ted is very conventional. He wants a family first and career second.
    - He is not spontaneous. He plans and plans and plans. He is not one to just buy a ticket and fly off to Thailand, unless he is following someone who is spontaneous and he is completely in love with her.
    - Not distract-able at all from his current friends.
    - Not an attention whore (not that that's a bad thing). He is more of a mediator and acts as a stabilizer between the others who have very strong and extreme personalities.

    "As for ISTJs, the dominant Si is oriented toward the world of forms, essences, generics. Again, "for both of the IS_J types, the sense of propriety comes from the clear definition of these internal forms. ... A 'proper' chair has four legs," etc. (Jung saw IS as something of an oxymoron: sensing, which is a perceiving function, focused inward and thus away from that which is perceived (the "object"). In this light, he described this sensing as something removed from reality, full of archetypes/mythical figures/hobgoblins; sensing of one's own set of forms.)" - a perfect architect.

    Not many enfps are architects, I'd think, buildings can be quite impersonal, they're just objects after all.

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    ESTJs are content to enforce "the rules," often dictated by tradition or handed down from a higher authority.
    Barney hates to break the 'Bro code' rules and enforces them on others.

    Tradition is important to the ESTJ. Holidays, birthdays and other annual celebrations are remembered and observed often religiously by this type.
    Barney never forgets traditions.

    ESTJs have an acute sense for orthodoxy. Much of their evaluation of persons and activities reflects their strong sense of what is "normal" and what isn't. ESTJ humor is frequently centered around something or someone being off center or behaving abnormally.
    Barney's humour is all about insulting people.
    Don't get confused between what we find humorous and what Barney finds humorous.

    ESTJs promote the work ethic. Power, position and prestige should be worked for and earned. Laziness is rarely viewed with ambivalence nor benevolence by this type.
    Barney hate's it when he wants to do something and the group can't be bothered because of laziness.

    The ESTJ is not afraid to stand up for what she believes is right even in the face of overwhelming odds. ESTJs are able to make the tough calls.
    Barney


    Barney does not fit into the NT temperament.

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    SJs are observant, stable and motivated by a need to maintain security. They are realistic, routinized administrators requiring tasks be completed correctly and that people behave appropriately. SJs make thorough examinations to ensure everything is done according to plan. They make sure no more and no less credit is given than due. When a need arises, they are quick to provide a solution, provided that the need is justified. SJs are not driven by impulse, but rather by concrete fact. By virtue of their reliable, diligent, industrious, persevering nature, they make excellent leaders.

    NOT TED

    NFs are introspective, intuitive and highly idealistic. They are subjective, compassionate "feeler" people that desire to contribute goodness and meaning to the lives of others. They are effective at doing this through their nurturing, insightful and encouraging nature. NFs despise conflict. They will do everything they can to make sure their loved ones get along with each other and are happy. NFs are imaginitive, creatively inclined and passionate about their choice causes.

    TED

    Ted is generally accused of thinking to much. Intuitive.
    He doesn't use his senses as much as he uses his intuition.

    Ted is not unsociable. He likes meeting new people. Extravert
    He is not someone who avoids people.

    Ted is spontaneous.
    Good examples are:
    - The smurf penis
    - "I love you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    Ted's not an Introvert. He is not the type to be alone. And I doubt any INFP would be quick to say I love you. He is the sociable type.
    I'd have to disagree. Ted doesn't seem like he actually likes making new acquaintances and he seems pretty shy and awkward with new people; he likes spending a lot of time with his close friends, but that is natural for a mild introvert. I love spending time with friends too and I'm quite sociable as well, but that doesn't make me an E. Plus, be sure being quick to say 'I love you' is sometimes exactly the thing an INFP would do. If an INFP who is extremely romantic and idealistic will see someone and think they're destined together, they might often end up scaring that person off with their intensity. They're highly prone to very intense crushes, and have big problems letting go off the past (which can be true for ENFPs as well, that's true). But overall, it seems to me that Ted thinks far too much before acting and spends far too much in his head to be an E.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki
    Judge barney by how he is, not how he was. He is not an N.
    I'm sorry but that is not an argument. Firstly, if Barney was an ESTJ, he would have to use Si, which he totally doesn't. He always looks for new ways, new possibilities, the world is like a giant chess board for him => Ni. He's a strategist, nothing about him is traditional. If he seems sensory, than it's in the 'sensual, fun-driven' Se way, which is also an ENTJ function. Secondly, Barney's past is an essential part of his personality, so I don't see any reason why I shouldn't consider it when typing him. But even if his past wasn't revealed I would still think he's ENTJ. Ns who live like Ss aren't uncommon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki
    Lily is more of a P. She always wants to keep all options open whereas Martial wants things to be done as soon as possible
    I'll still have to watch more episodes to be able to type Lily more accurately, but so far I've just seen more Fe than Fi in her. And ENFJs are also prone to be doubtful and indecisive from time to time; J isn't everything.

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    ESTJs are content to enforce "the rules," often dictated by tradition or handed down from a higher authority.
    Barney hates to break the 'Bro code' rules and enforces them on others.

    Barney created the Bro Code!

    Tradition is important to the ESTJ. Holidays, birthdays and other annual celebrations are remembered and observed often religiously by this type.
    Barney never forgets traditions.

    Proof? He was excited for Thanksgiving because of the Slap Bet, not because of any 'sentimental' connection to the holiday.

    ESTJs have an acute sense for orthodoxy. Much of their evaluation of persons and activities reflects their strong sense of what is "normal" and what isn't. ESTJ humor is frequently centered around something or someone being off center or behaving abnormally.
    Barney's humour is all about insulting people.

    Relationships are normal. Barney makes fun of relationships/marriage a whole lot.

    ESTJs promote the work ethic. Power, position and prestige should be worked for and earned. Laziness is rarely viewed with ambivalence nor benevolence by this type.
    Barney hate's it when he wants to do something and the group can't be bothered because of laziness.

    Not untrue of ENTJs. That doesn't explain how he doesn't actually 'work' while at his job. Also, his fire-breathing dragon or something building idea was not ESTJ at all.

    The ESTJ is not afraid to stand up for what she believes is right even in the face of overwhelming odds. ESTJs are able to make the tough calls.
    Barney

    Totally true of ENTJs as well, maybe even more so due to their individualism and relentless pursue of success.

    Barney does not fit into the NT temperament.

    He does not have the Guardian temperament at all. He is more Artisan than Guardian, but coupled with his fascination with theories and ideas, he is a Rational.

    Barney pretty much comes up with crazy ideas/theories and goes about proving them. He doesn't care about his career. He cares about being wealthy and being with tons of women, just to prove a point. He is very child-like actually and hides behind a tough, cynical front. He is very spontaneous, not STJ at all.

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    Ted is definitely IxxJ to me.
    Barney definitely ENTJ.

    I think you may be right about Marshall being an ENFJ. That makes sense to me.
    Not sure about Lily. She was hard for me in the first place.

    Robin I still think is most likely an ENTJ.

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    [YOUTUBE="rP2TBqJirMI"]Ted[/YOUTUBE]
    Classic ENFP.

    [YOUTUBE="Yg9jjs-o35g"]Barney[/YOUTUBE]
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