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    Just curious, @Hazashin:

    * Why 6w7 rather than 6w5 for C-3PO?
    * What does "pr6w5" mean? "Prussian"?
    * Why is Han Sx-first, rather than Sp-first?
    Tentative typing: ISFJ 6w5 or 9w1 (Sp/S[?]).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    Just curious, @Hazashin:
    * Why 6w7 rather than 6w5 for C-3PO?
    You're right; that works better.

    * What does "pr6w5" mean? "Prussian"?
    Yes, that's what it stands for. It basically means that you get security from impersonal rules.

    * Why is Han Sx-first, rather than Sp-first?
    You're right. It's just that S.I. had said he was Sx/So, and then I was thinking it over in my head and considered the possibility in my head and only thought he most certainly can't be Sp-last.
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    Instinctual Variant: Sx/Sp
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    Political Stance: Solid Liberal
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    Fi > Ne > Ti > Fe > Se > Si > Te > Ni

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    You're right; that works better.



    Yes, that's what it stands for. It basically means that you get security from impersonal rules.



    You're right. It's just that S.I. had said he was Sx/So, and then I was thinking it over in my head and considered the possibility in my head and only thought he most certainly can't be Sp-last.
    Ah, I understand now, thanks!

    I kind of understand how you define Prussian 6s, although that does sound more like the 1 fixation - or maybe it's because I can't quite think of Prussians in fiction that aren't assholes (e.g. Percy Wetmore from The Green Mile or Warden Norton from The Shawshank Redemption).

    Also, could Luke's impulsiveness be explained by his age and emotional immaturity? He was a teenager during episodes IV-VI, right?

    I've also seen Obi-Wan typed as a 6w5 Sp/So or So/Sp... What do you think?
    Tentative typing: ISFJ 6w5 or 9w1 (Sp/S[?]).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    I've also seen Obi-Wan typed as a 6w5 Sp/So or So/Sp... What do you think?
    I thought that too, but I think this fits him fairly well, don't you think?

    So/Sp 5:
    One might think that the energy of this subtype would be warmer and friendlier than that of the self-pres/social, but it doesn’t usually present that way. Because the social instinct is dominant, these Fives are much more aware of their role in the group. They are therefore more careful of their involvements with others. The social arena is more important and is invested with more energy, so these Fives will pull up faster and harder into self-pres mode if they should feel at all threatened. This will sometimes give others the impression of coldness. This subtype will center a lot of their intellectual interest around the workings of society, humanity or spirituality. This serves as their connection with people. By means of these abstract mental constructs, Fives of this subtype feel a sense of belonging socially, without having to be personally involved and invested. The healthier people of this subtype are, the more they are able to integrate their mental constructs with their actual experiences. They can really be content to adopt the role of “people watcher,” but they do it from a closer and closer perspective. Their blind spot revolves around the fact that they tend to convince themselves they can get along just fine in the observer role. It does feel safer to them. If they do have a few people relatively close to them, they can really strike a good balance between their need to withdraw and their need to connect to the larger social world.

    This subtype could be seen as the most intellectual of type Five. The combination of the basic desire for knowing with the social instinct’s need to "fit in," makes people of this subtype want to find a niche as the expert. Their interest in structure, especially social structure, accentuates their natural inclination for acquiring knowledge. With the sexual instinct least developed, this subtype is in the position of having a strong pull towards understanding the workings of the world around them, without the emotional intensity of the sexual instinct setting up any distraction. These Fives fit the role of the scientist or professor quite well in this respect.
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    Political Stance: Solid Liberal
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    Fi > Ne > Ti > Fe > Se > Si > Te > Ni

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    I thought that too, but I think this fits him fairly well, don't you think?
    Hmmm... You've got a point there.
    Tentative typing: ISFJ 6w5 or 9w1 (Sp/S[?]).

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    Updated typings:

    Anakin Skywalker: ESFP cp6w7 Sx/Sp (cp6w7-8w7-2w3)
    Darth Vader: (shadow mode) INTJ
    Obi-Wan Kenobi: ISFJ 5w4 So/Sp (5w4-1w9-2w1)
    Yoda: INFJ 5w4 So/Sp (5w4-9w1-4w5)
    Mace Windu: ISTJ pr6w5 So/Sp (pr6w5-8w9-3w2)
    Qui-Gon Jinn: INTJ 8w9 Sp/So (8w9-5w4-4w5)
    Jar-Jar Binks: ESFP p6w7 Sp/So (p6w7-9w8-2w1)
    Padme: ENFJ 1w2 So/Sx (1w2-cp6w7-2w1)
    Lord Sidious: INTJ 8w9 Sp/So (8w9-5w4-3w2)
    Darth Maul: ISTJ pr6w5 Sx/Sp (pr6w5-8w7-3w4)
    C-3PO: ESFJ p6w5 Sp/So (p6w5-1w2-2w1)
    R2-D2: ESTP 7w8 Sx/So (7w8-9w8-4w5)
    Count Dooku: INTJ 5w4 Sp/Sx (5w4-8w7-4w5)
    General Grievous: ESTJ pr6w5 Sp/Sx (pr6w5-3w4-8w7)
    Luke Skywalker: ISFP cp6w5 Sx/Sp (cp6w5-9w1-2w1)
    Han Solo: ESTP 8w7 Sp/Sx (8w7-7w8-3w4)
    Princess Leia: ESTJ 8w7 Sx/So (8w7-pr6w5-2w1)
    Lando Calrissian: ESTP 7w8 So/Sx (7w8-3w2-9w8)
    Chewbacca: ISFP p6w7 Sx/Sp (p6w7-9w8-2w1)
    Last edited by Hazashin; 04-19-2012 at 07:55 PM.
    MBTI: INFP
    Enneagram: 6w7, phobic
    Tritype: 6-9-2
    Instinctual Variant: Sx/Sp
    Temperament: Pure Supine
    D&D Alignment: Neutral Good
    Political Stance: Solid Liberal
    Religious Views: Atheist

    Fi > Ne > Ti > Fe > Se > Si > Te > Ni

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    "I am justice!" ~ Light Yagami, Death Note
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    I never thought I'd see an ISFJ 5...
    Tentative typing: ISFJ 6w5 or 9w1 (Sp/S[?]).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Updated typings:

    Anakin Skywalker: ESFP cp6w7 Sx/Sp (cp6w7-8w7-2w3)
    Darth Vader: (shadow mode) INTJ
    Obi-Wan Kenobi: ISFJ 5w6 So/Sp (5w6-1w9-2w1)
    Yoda: INFJ 5w4 So/Sp (5w4-9w1-4w5)
    Mace Windu: ISTJ pr6w5 So/Sp (pr6w5-8w9-3w2)
    Qui-Gon Jinn: INTJ 8w9 Sp/So (8w9-5w4-4w5)
    Jar-Jar Binks: ESFP p6w7 Sp/So (p6w7-9w8-2w1)
    Padme: ENFP 1w2 So/Sx (1w2-cp6w7-2w1)
    Lord Sidious: INTJ 8w9 Sp/So (8w9-5w4-3w2)
    Darth Maul: ISTP 8w7 Sx/Sp (8w7-pr6w5-3w4)
    C-3PO: ISFJ p6w5 Sp/So (p6w5-1w2-2w1)
    R2-D2: ISTP 7w8 Sx/So (7w8-8w7-4w5)
    Count Dooku: INTJ 5w4 Sp/Sx (5w4-8w7-4w5)
    General Grievous: ESTJ pr6w5 Sp/Sx (pr6w5-3w4-8w7)
    Luke Skywalker: ISFP cp6w5 Sx/Sp (cp6w5-9w1-2w1)
    Han Solo: ISTP 8w7 Sp/Sx (8w7-7w8-3w4)
    Princess Leia: ESTJ 8w7 Sx/So (8w7-pr6w5-2w1)
    Lando Calrissian: ESTP 7w8 Sp/Sx (7w8-3w2-9w8)
    Chewbacca: ISFP p6w7 So/Sx (p6w7-9w8-2w1)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    No, I never understood why people say that. There is hardly anything 9 about that guy. The guy is often strong-willed (I mean, he's really stubborn and was reluctant to take on the droids, and he was really frustrated with being on Degobah because he thought he was "wasting [his] time!"), he is temperamental, pessimistic, perfectionistic/critical, and fairly independent. You know, I hadn't considered this before, but maybe he's a 4? I mean, he's expressive, dramatic, self-absorbed, and temperamental, and he seems to want to be someone of great significance. I really don't know what his type is, but I'm just throwing that out there as a possibility for his type.
    Whatever his core type is, I'm going to conjecture that his fixes are 4w5 for Image, p6w5 for Head, and 9w1 for Gut.
    Actually, I'm never too sure myself; 9 sx, the type most likely drawn to merging with something meaningful, seems like it could theoretically fit Luke, although I have to wonder if 7 might be a possible type; desire for adventure and escape from bleak reality. 4 might work I suppose, although I'm iffy on the idea. Phobic 6 seems unlikely given just how damn reckless he can be sometimes.

    Possibly ISTP, and most certainly Sp-second (he had to have his So side forced out of him). Other than that yep. I think his tritype is 8w7-7w8-3w4.
    I think he gets typed ISTP mostly because back when everyone was typing via letter-dichotomy/Keirsey, Han Solo fit into that ISTP stereotype of 'cool loner / badass smuggler'. However, in terms of cognitive functions, I don't see any Ni out of him at all, nor does he seem Ti dominant; his Ti seems to be that auxiliary use of situational logic, with his dominant Se of focusing on the present moment of time. Also, he appears to be charming enough to demonstrate some level of tertiary Fe (in addition to him leaning to value others and not just his own desires as evident by the end of episode 4).

    That sounds reasonable. I think her tritype is 8w7-cp6w5-2w1.
    That tri-type seems about spot on.

    Not too sure he was an ISFP (though I am almost certain he was some kind of FP). I mean, do any of these things sound like him?

    I think ESFP might work better.
    Where did you get those description exactly? The problem with most description out there is 1. They're based off of dichotomy types, and 2. They're written in an often stereotypical manner than paints Fi dominants as little cuddle bunnies, even though Fi, as defined by Jung, is about personal values. I mean, by most xNFP descriptions, I wouldn't even consider myself those types because of how they written.
    As for Enneatype, I think he's either that (2w3) or cp6w7. I don't think he's an 8.

    . . . . .

    As for tritype, it is most certainly 2w3, cp6w7, and 8w7 in some order.
    My reasoning for 2 is the connection to disintegrated 8 (these enneagram descriptions though, are very good as opposed to MBTI descriptions). I'm still of the opinion that his full type is 2w3 > cp6w7 > 8w7.

    Yes, although he might have been an INTJ, as well. You know, the whole, "Let's rule the galaxy as father and son!" smelled like the works of Ni to me.
    Doubtful; his reliance of orders from Emperor Palpatine and lack of any other forethought would indicate Si. True, he did want Luke to join him for ruling the universe, but I'm skeptical that that alone could justify being an Ni dominant.

    He might be ISFJ and also 5w6, but, 5w6 So/Sp, although I hadn't considered it, is definitely spot-on. I think his tritype is 5w6-1w9-2w1.
    Obi-wan however, has a very forward method of thinking, and intuitive style of teaching Luke that one would only find in an Ni dominant. I said w4 because he didn't seem as analytical as a w6 (at least not in the original films), rather he was more abstract and mysterious. Tri-type seems about right there.

    Yes, although I think he's another 5w6 So/Sp, like Kenobi (though more likely 5w4 than him). His tritype is 5w6-9w1-2w1.
    Same thoughts as Obi-Wan typing.

    Yes, although I think Si comes first. His memory recall is superb (he is, after all, a computer). His tritype is most likely p6w7-2w1-1w2.
    He also had a bit of a habit of offering possible ideas at times (Ne) and I didn't see any evidence of Ti. His Fe seems reasonably strong as his Si, which leads me to believe that he's ESFJ, not ISFJ. Agree on tri-type.

    I think Sp/So works better, but other than that, yes. His tritype, I presume, is 7w8-8w9-3w2 (in some order, at least).
    I suppose sp/so could work, not sure about it really.

    I think she is more Fi, but it may seem like she's Fe because she's a 1 and in touch with her Social instinct. I think she is an ENFP. Other than that, yes. Her tritype is probably 1w2-cp6w5-2w1.
    Her whole 'I need to partake in my duty as a queen/senator and save my people/be celibate' is indicative of Fe dominant.

    Nooooo! There is nothing Fe-dom about that guy. He doesn't care about social rules and conduct, he's very much set in his ways. On top of that, he was defiant of the Jedi Code and followed the beat of his own drum. Fi > Fe. I think he is INTJ 8w9 Sp/So. And I think his tritype is 8w9-5w4-4w5.
    I'm going to be honest, I sorta copied his typing from others cause I actually wasn't sure what is type may be.

    Possibly ISTP, and I think he is Sx/Sp. I think his tritype is probably pr6w5-8w7-3w4.
    I doubt that he's a Ti dom. At no point do we ever see him analyze, contemplate, scrutinize what he's doing, or formulate a model of how the world works. He's actively dependent on Emperor Palpatine for guidance as what he should do, which is indicative of Si-Te; he basically takes orders and fulfills them without question to the best of his ability. In addition, I heard that in one of the EU books, that when he had some actual character build-up, that he was very reliant on his training which also indicates Si dominance. Sx/sp certainly works; anything but sp first though; he willingly allowed himself to go to Naboo knowing full well that it could cost him his life; in fact, I actually have to wonder if he's 5 sx instead . . .

    Not sure his on tri-type though.

    I don't know enough about him to make an accurate assessment. It certainly sounds plausible.
    Actually, that was a gut typing, and probably not an accurate one either; similar to Maul, he has virtually no lines or any sort of character development to go by. In fact, I have to wonder if perhaps he might be ISTJ

    Probably ESTJ and Sp-first, but other than that, yes. Tritype is probably 8w9-3w2-7w8.
    Ni seems more likely; he intuited that Boushh was actually Leia in disguise, as well as knowing that the bomb she had wasn't real, and even planned the Rancor trap for Luke. Also showed signs of being somewhat aggressive and indulgent in immediate physical desires (sitting on his ass all day, and putting Leia in a slave outfit).

    He's either an 8 or a 5. His tritype is probably 8w9-5w4-4w5 in some order.
    I might be able to type him if I read some of the EU, but from the movie standpoint alone, it's hard to tell. I suppose 8 or 5 could work though.

    Not sure either. However, I think his fixes are probably 3w4, pr6w5, and 8w7.
    Those fixes seem right I suppose.

    I say ISFP p6w7-9w8-2w1 Sx/Sp
    I say ISTP 7w8-9w8-4w5 Sx/So.
    Those seem about right I guess. I really should re-watch the films (once I find where they're located within the messy depths of my garage).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Idealist View Post
    Where did you get those description exactly? The problem with most description out there is 1. They're based off of dichotomy types, and 2. They're written in an often stereotypical manner than paints Fi dominants as little cuddle bunnies, even though Fi, as defined by Jung, is about personal values. I mean, by most xNFP descriptions, I wouldn't even consider myself those types because of how they written.
    I did not see him offer any description. But what I've seen of the Fi descriptions is more like "this type appears rather cold and reserved, and it might seem on a superficial view that such people have no feelings at all."

    On the other hand, what I've seen of their avatars has been cute little bunnies.
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