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    Quote Originally Posted by durentu View Post
    Evil INTP guess

    Milton Waddams (red swingline stapler)
    Clyde Shelton (Law Abiding Citizen)
    The Puppet Master (Ghost in the Shell)


    Theory/psychological profile
    This class of criminals are about undermining a system rather than a specific person. They see that there is something wrong with society, or a way of doing things and so they study and create ways of interrupting and dissolving these systems. Their execution strategy is through intermediaries: working only through messengers. It's extremely rare to find an INTP personally killing someone except in those cases of personal retribution or personal vindication.

    The difference between an INTJ and INTP criminal is that an INTP will give the current system a try and then find that the system's bad parts outweigh the good parts. The INTJ criminal will reject the current system an try to install a new one of their design. In short general terms, INTP will try a bad system, INTJ will reject it on definitive grounds or on principle.

    The aftermath of a successful plan is somewhat different for the two. I suspect that the evil INTJ will want to rule this new paradigm and therefore will show their face at some point for the public to recognize their new leader. The evil INTP will be extremely difficult to catch because they wouldn't mind being the janitor or secretary of the new system, therefore never showing their face. To catch the evil INTP is to apply pressure and monitor movement patterns and resource usages. The general weakness of the evil INTP is love.
    So what would the weakness of the INTJ be?
    “To explain all nature is too difficult a task for any one man or even for any one age. 'Tis much better to do a little with certainty, & leave the rest for others that come after you, than to explain all things by conjecture without making sure of any thing.”—Statement from unpublished notes for the Preface to the Opticks (1704) by Newton.

    What do you think about me? And for the darker side, here.

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    I'd also cite Scott Pritchard from No Way Out as an ISFJ villain. He'd do anything for his boss/possible crush... up to and including framing someone else for a murder his boss committed in the heat of the moment. Pretty creepy guy, IMO.

    I'd also make a case for a Fi-using villain being someone who uses people for hir own amusement or personal goals, treating them as tools to be used - or discarded - in pursuit of very personal obsessions/vendettas (ex.: the main villain from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyFLFv7NRcg&feature=related"]Mithos[/YOUTUBE]

    I think that Mithos is an evil and insane xNFJ... there IS such a thing as an NF villain, but as you'll see, it's a very sad thing indeed.
    Mithos is certainly an INFP. on that note though, I love NF villains

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    good and evil are consequence of information lack and imagemaking all things objectively are neutral in essense, only a person feels them as good (like it) or evil (not like it). Anyway, modern culture have stereotypes to say.

    some come to mind:

    ENTP - amoral swindler (Moister in "Going Postal")
    INTP - dark depressive magician (Severus in "Harry Potter" movie)
    ENFJ - bloody dictator with new philosophy (Hitler, Palpatine in "Star Wars" movie)
    ISTJ - bloody dictator conservative (Stalin, Vlad Dracul)
    ESTP - bloody conqueror (Genghis Khan)

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    For some reason I always thought Satlin was an E, but I guess now that I think about it I don't have any real idea of what he was like in person, just more or less what he did and some ideas on his psychology and motivation. I suppose I just always imagined him as kind of gregarious. I guess I know Lenin didn't like him, called him a thug and explicitly warned not to let Stalin take over for him (in vain, obviously).
    Does he want a pillow for his head?

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    Ah, found a clip from Trials and Tribulations.
    WARNING SPOILERS.



    (The context is a bit hard to decipher if you didn't play the game so far, but the Fi villain is the woman on the stand; she's a dead spirit being channeled by a medium, so she believes she can say anything without consequences - most of the game has her putting on an "oh, I'm such a frail, innocent lady" façade)



    "Helping...? Don't make me laugh. From the day I was born to the day I died, I never helped anyone! I lived for myself and, in the end, I died for myself."

    (Curiously, she's also talking about her mother, an excellent example of a Fe villain - and probably an ISFJ one!)

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    Oh! How about the Other Mother from Coraline as an ISFJ villain?

    You may come when you learn to be a loving daughter.

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    ^^ Fe-dom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offog View Post
    ^^ Fe-dom.
    An ESFJ villain, then? (You are talking about the Other Mother, right?)

    On that note, how about Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter as another ESFJ antagonist?

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