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  • ENTJ?

    4 19.05%
  • INTJ?

    3 14.29%
  • ENTP?

    2 9.52%
  • INTP?

    0 0%
  • ENFJ?

    8 38.10%
  • INFJ?

    0 0%
  • ENFP?

    2 9.52%
  • INFP?

    0 0%
  • ESTJ?

    0 0%
  • ISTJ

    0 0%
  • ESFJ?

    0 0%
  • ISFJ?

    0 0%
  • ESTP?

    1 4.76%
  • ISTP?

    1 4.76%
  • ESFP?

    0 0%
  • ISFP?

    0 0%
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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    ENFJ? When has he ever done anything that wasn't extremely calculated and calm?
    Nearly everything in his youth; his revolts at the age of 17, taking drugs, joining a religious community, his first political campaign in Illinois (NOT calculated and calm) etc.
    He's clearly an idealist, nothing like Putin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adoamros View Post
    He puts on a feeler facade to help win over the clueless masses.
    Fortunately, the Enlightened are here to help those pitiful sheeps. Phew.

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    Just quickly: Obama roasts McCain at the Alfred Smith dinner Ne dominant. Watch talk shows as well. Lots of Ne, like the Special Olympics comment simulatedworld noted.

    Also, if you read Dreams from my Father, his description of himself as a youth is standard fare ENTP, all about questioning authority, getting into arguments, sampling other people's perspectives and seeing that other people get riled up about things but not understanding why. He found he could read other people's emotions, but empathy was something he had to mature into mastering, which is likely why he does not take it for granted but continues to emphasize how important it is that one consciously chooses to practice it. I find the NFJ approach is more like (innocently/sincerely wondering) "what is the matter with you that you do not feel this?"

    He's remarkable for sure no matter which type he is, but given that he is an extraordinary individual, which is more likely: That he, as a politician, maximizes his use of diplomatic, seductive Fe (he still slips up though, e.g. the candidly critical "he's a jackass" comment about Kanye West which he realized only a moment too late was inappropriate rather than having pitch perfection)? Or that he, as a politician, learned Ne to rival a stand-up comedian?

    ... Did I start this post "just quickly"? *back to work*

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    I don't understand how people are using the argument that he's not always "diplomatic" as proof of ENTP.

    Fe-doms aren't always "on" and always say the most perfect thing and the most perfect moment. I just seems like the evidence people are using to say he's ENTP is he's quick, witty, and made a few jokes at someone else's expence. Is that that all it takes to qualify as Ne-dom? You've never been around any non Ne-doms who have those qualities? I think people are mistyping a lot of people if this is the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    I don't understand how people are using the argument that he's not always "diplomatic" as proof of ENTP.

    Fe-doms aren't always "on" and always say the most perfect thing and the most perfect moment. I just seems like the evidence people are using to say he's ENTP is he's quick, witty, and made a few jokes at someone else's expence. Is that that all it takes to qualify as Ne-dom? You've never been around any non Ne-doms who have those qualities? I think people are mistyping a lot of people if this is the case.
    I think it's just that most Fe doms I know would have thought out and planned exactly what to say in each of these cases, and would have been more cognizant of how his remarks might affect the feelings of others and his public image.

    Also, in economica's post above--I think this has convinced me of ENTP rather than ENFP, actually. Not many Fe doms have to work consciously on feeling empathy or understanding why people's feelings operate the way they do. Those things are second nature for Fe, but Obama says he really had to make an effort to learn them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    I don't understand how people are using the argument that he's not always "diplomatic" as proof of ENTP.
    I'm not saying all ENFJs are always pitch perfect; I just think it's more likely that he is an ENTP who strives to use Fe as much as possible than an ENFJ who strives to use Ne as much as possible and who hasn't disciplined himself not to call people jackasses by now. The incentives speak for a politician maximizing use of Fe, not Ne.

    I just seems like the evidence people are using to say he's ENTP is he's quick, witty, and made a few jokes at someone else's expence. Is that that all it takes to qualify as Ne-dom? You've never been around any non Ne-doms who have those qualities?
    It's a question of degree. Of course other types can be witty, but when people think you could quit your day job and become a successful stand-up comedian, odds are you are Ne dominant, not Fe dominant.

    PS: As for Ti, he was a professor of constitutional law which is all about the principles. If ptgatsby were here, he'd quote statistics saying law is an overwhelmingly T(i) profession. Again, not proof, just probability.

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    I agree with what Economica is saying, and want to stress that while I saw him as a T from early on, I really have an especially hard time believing F considering his background. People are less well rounded when they are younger, and his background is as a law professor. Law is a heavy T field.
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    Law is also a heavy sj field, naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by candylandjoe View Post
    Law is also a heavy sj field, naturally.
    SJs do well at the detail-oriented things. However, when it comes to legal philosophy, most of the best are INTPs, and when it comes to actual litigation, it's going to be damn hard to beat an ENTP. Public interest is almost entirely an ENFP field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    He's remarkable for sure no matter which type he is, but given that he is an extraordinary individual, which is more likely: That he, as a politician, maximizes his use of diplomatic, seductive Fe (he still slips up though, e.g. the candidly critical "he's a jackass" comment about Kanye West which he realized only a moment too late was inappropriate rather than having pitch perfection)? Or that he, as a politician, learned Ne to rival a stand-up comedian?
    Feeling compelled to share feelings and opinions, especially about specific people, is an Fe phenomenon, not a lapse of Fe.

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