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    Per Ardua Metamorphosis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    These people were not Nazis.
    The Nazi party was a paramilitary organization.
    Fair enough. I'll admit I was moreso considering the fact that they had a good healthcare system, etc. (if I remember right).
    "You will always be fond of me. I represent to you all the sins you never had the courage to commit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    Was this on purpose?
    Yes.

    J conserves energy. P consumes it.

    Their energy was not conserved or consumed. It was pure.
    The most expressed feature in their handwriting.
    I was surprised by the extreme expression as well as uniformity of such an odd trait among these people.

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    Not entirely sure what you are getting at, Wildcat, but Göering is a clear Se-type and Himmler a clear Si-type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    Fair enough. I'll admit I was moreso considering the fact that they had a good healthcare system, etc. (if I remember right).
    They had a system of adequate social security already under Kaiser.
    It was very much a work of Bismarck. Theoretically the system did not change under Weimar. In practice it did not work because the state was devoid of funds much of the time.

    In the Reich the companies were private. But you could not cash the money.
    The profits had to be invested back in the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    Not entirely sure what you are getting at, Wildcat, but Göering is a clear Se-type and Himmler a clear Si-type.
    You mean Himmler was an ESFJ?
    Is extreme fanaticism an SJ trait?

    Goering was much less of a fanatic.
    Goering was an extreme Se, true. An ESTP person is much more relaxed and set back, though.
    The extreme Se was perfectly matched by his extreme Te. The functions assimilate each other. The control finds a balance in the drive. The energy cannot be consumed, nor conserved. It can find an outlet only in action. The typical distinction for the compulsive diner-hunters.

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    I think extreme fanaticism is a J trait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I think extreme fanaticism is a J trait.
    There is a difference in the fanaticism of Hitler and Himmler.

    We call it both fanaticism, yes.

    Hitler wanted the Jews murdered.

    This has nothing to do with the fanaticism of Himmler.
    During the war Himmler was raving all over Europe. He could make open threats to specific people, then smile at heads of state and shake hands.

    The heads of states knew of his blackmail tactics before they saw him. They wrote in their memoirs that the man was an absolute fanatic.

    Originally he was not much of an antisemite. The basis of his fanaticism was in absolute obedience to the hero.

    When the hero became the ultimate loser in 1944-45, he opened negotiations about the Jews.

    In Hitler, it was about the Jews. In Himmler, it was about Hitler.
    Himmler was a hero-worshipper of the first order. The worship of Himmler was more fanatical than that of Goering because Himmler was an F. Not because he was J.
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    Are you the type you are because you built a trike and not a bike when you were 11?

    NO.

    It is only in the why, not the what.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Are you the type you are because you built a trike and not a bike when you were 11?

    NO.

    It is only in the why, not the what.
    Who?..
    How?..
    Why?...

    WHAT !!

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