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    I won't get into an argument as to Shakespeare's type, as every xNxx tries to claim him as their own type

    State, was it you who originally suggested Tom Robbins as an ENFP?

    (Also if you're alter ego is ENTP writers, should mine be ENTJ writers? From those ENTJs I know of:

    Jack London
    George Bernard Shaw
    Carl Sagan
    Frank Herbert
    Daniel Defoe

    I can't say it applies to me particularly.)



    I like/enjoy ENTP writers, but I'm not wild about them.

    Some other ENTP writers, up for debate obviously, but I think they are:

    Thomas More
    Douglas Adams
    Hilaire Belloc
    Ray Bradbury
    Roald Dahl
    Jules Verne

    ENTP writers seem to get much enjoyment from rattling a few cages and causing disruption to the status quo if I'm seeing a trend among them. They tend to be immoral by their society's standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    pink, i don't know dh well, but i feel that most of my people do have a gravitation to lawrence that is neither syrupy nor sappy. his ideas, contextualizations, discourse, etc. which is different than the personal values of an inp. i'm interested in hearing more.
    When I was sick, very sick, and couldn't move much, I did a lot of reading, mostly Victorian English writers (because that was what was at hand). I had not read much of Lawrence, but after reading "The Horse Dealer's Daughter" and "Love on the Farm" I fell violently in love with him. Sensual, very subtle, empathic and intelligent.

    The man in "love" has just killed a rabbit in a snare and has come home to his wife who is enraptured by his nearness, the smell of the fur, his hand in her hair (like the caught rabbit), his touch at her neck, his kiss.

    God, I am caught in a snare!
    I know not what fine wire is round my throat;
    I only know I let him finger there
    My pulse of life, and let him nose like a stoat
    Who sniffs with joy before he drinks the blood.

    And down his mouth comes to my mouth! and down
    His bright dark eyes come over me, like a hood
    Upon my mind! his lips meet mine, and a flood
    Of sweet fire sweeps across me, so I drown
    Against him, die, and find death good.
    I also found myself drawn in by Byron's better angels (and some of his demons) in the same manner, though he and I argue over his motivations still. A deep kiss and a kick to the shin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamiteninja View Post
    ENTP writers seem to get much enjoyment from rattling a few cages and causing disruption to the status quo if I'm seeing a trend among them. They tend to be immoral by their society's standards.

    It could be you see ENTP writers this way and subsequently don't recognize the ones who don't fit this mold as ENTPs.

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    Shakespeare was NOT an ENTP. That's crazy talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlahBlahNounBlah View Post
    It could be you see ENTP writers this way and subsequently don't recognize the ones who don't fit this mold as ENTPs.
    Wrong. My comment referred to State's idea of ENTPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker View Post
    Shakespeare was NOT an ENTP. That's crazy talk.
    I didn't want to be the one to have to point this out, especially as he is my type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker View Post
    Shakespeare was NOT an ENTP. That's crazy talk.
    Weirdly, and I say weirdly because I suspect most of the writters mentioned here are Introverts - given writing is a particularly solitary pursuit....

    Shakespear was a bit of a hell raiser and a bit of a chancer.... ENxP isn't a bad fit....

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    pink, it does sound like it could be entp to me. bombast and bigness is often more of an Fe thing than Fi. the context is what makes us grow. gives us something to hold on to and really resonate for a while (so now i know you love dh lawrence and the clash ).


    i find that entp writers are better with discourse. merging it, transcending it, playing with it. they can be trickstery, they can be self-absorbed narcissists, they can be imaginative fantasy weavers, they can be comic boxers. they are inventive always, and good at finding ways of bridging new gaps, seeing possibilities, logically breaking down systems, finding falseness, etc. they work the context of values to create drama, comedy, conflict, jestering, etc.

    there often is a subversive tone underneath. i fucking love it. desire to pave the way to something new, freshly synthesized AND stylized, a radical break, etc.

    dynamite, i did suggest that tom robbins was enfp. my landmarks shifted and entp makes more sense to me, tho what do we know? he fucking loves henry miller, and his speeches within the novels feel more entp to me. joseph campbell, on the other hand, seems like a more by the heart kind of guy.

    shakespeare seems more Fe to me than Fi. but i could be wrong. i'm gonna take a shakespeare class next semester. seems all about context, story, drama- less about developing personal values. and this is NOT me claiming him as my type- i may do that for rilke, but i'm sure as shit no bill shakespeare. i don't even read him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker View Post
    Shakespeare was NOT an ENTP. That's crazy talk.
    very possibly. but that's where i lean.

    i read a few shakespeare plays back in hs. didn't work for me. too rhetorical for me, not enough Fi. i think infps think he's infp bc they supply the feeling when they read him. for me he was more about ideas and contexts that ultimately felt a bit too divorced from anything that hit close to home.

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    And the most important entp writer of all time you just ignore ?

    I am gravely disappoint -.-
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