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    Id say ESTJ.

    I dont really see P as he always has to be in control. i dont see F because well, he just isnt the Fe material. definitely E, as he is so interested about external world and wants to control it sooo much -> Te dom. he always wants things to be in certain way, always need perfection on what is, and this aspect of him drives his need to control with Te = Si aux.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    A very atypical ExTJ, because they're really not that chaotic and terrifying, but I love Ramsay anyway. I tend to see a number of Te primaries coming across socially introverted and testing that way too, which is why I'm fairly certain he's a strong E.

    Pshh. I don't know about that. Probably the fact that he's Te primary makes him a decent leader, but I don't think creativity is so related to P.

    I had a dream once about being in Chef Ramsay's kitchen and being timed to make my creative dish, but my inferior Se could not keep up with any of the other people, and working as fast as I could I inevitably went behind schedule. As much as I like the idea behind being a teacher/leader and thinking up schemes, I don't think I could do his job. I somehow doubt it's J-related, but you probably need to be extroverted most of all, and not even all extroverted types are great communicators.

    Yes, definitely inferior feeling. He's a pretty cool and caring guy, he just sucks at showing it when he's in hyperactive E mode.
    Oh rather embarrassing. You brought back up an old thread in which I lacked as much restraint. Yes, I agree, Gordon Ramsay is certainly one of those who dislikes lack of competence from other individuals. It's goes against his lived mindset and so Te works best with the individual.

    When it comes to the adherence of teaching or leading one could say a P would thoroughly explore most areas of certain processes whereas a J would be steadfast and continue to progress with the course without giving time to explore the side-wing details. Which is certainly why Gordon wouldn't be a P with his style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Yes, definitely inferior feeling. He's a pretty cool and caring guy, he just sucks at showing it when he's in hyperactive E mode.
    Yes, I notice a big difference with him out of the context of the kitchen. Even on Hell's Kitchen or in the private moments with people on his other shows, his demeanor seems much more sweet. I also noticed a big change when he's had his family on one of his shows; watching him in the kitchen, I was like, "OMG, the poor kids," because I could imagine him being an abusive dictator; but his demeanor was entirely different when he was with them and his wife, even if they were playing competitive games, etc.

    It's kind of like outside of the situations where competence is highly prized and his professional reputation is at stake, he is able to drop into a feeling mode and show warmth and familiarity and affection; the change is very demarcated and noticeable.
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    I agree with the arguments for ESTJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post

    Pshh. I don't know about that. Probably the fact that he's Te primary makes him a decent leader, but I don't think creativity is so related to P.

    I had a dream once about being in Chef Ramsay's kitchen and being timed to make my creative dish, but my inferior Se could not keep up with any of the other people, and working as fast as I could I inevitably went behind schedule (I'm usually a slow, thoughtful worker and keep to myself.) As much as I like the idea behind being a teacher/leader and thinking up schemes, I don't think I could do his job. I somehow doubt it's J-related, but you probably need to be extroverted most of all, and not even all extroverted types are great communicators.
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    I'd agree to an extent that J type can be creative, but P types are typically more comfortable with the whole blank pieces of paper. J types typically like boundaries, schedules and knowing the next step, the same things can tick a P type off. More extreme creative (Ad creative, design etc) are p types in my experience.

    I once did an away day at work, it was a very J type orgaisation. Out of 35 people only 2 were P types, we did a thing where the J were asked to go dream something up and the P were asked. Our list was a bubble chart, kind of chaotic but much longer and wider than the 33 others had created... there list was bulleted, tidy and notated.... for what its worth both of us were kind of scruff in-comparison to the more groomed look. OK this is anicotal, but it works for me...

    I'm pretty sure GR is an ENTP... As for your dream.. the nightmare of a J type to be put under pressure and failing to deliver. P types can be 11th hour types, doesn't mean they get result sometimes they screw up because they haven't timed properly. or are tardy with everything.

    I agree actually Ramsey is not about making people feel like shit, he is about the discipline of service. any decent head chief is a bit grizzely... His staff are suppose to be very loyal to him, in part because he is a genuis. I have to say the guys a god in my book....

    Try making scrambelled egg Ala Ramsey

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU_B3QNu_Ks

    They just taste different and super yum,

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    I would guess ENTP or ENTJ. I watched the his getaway to India series and I knew he was one of those really adventurous types who wants to learn their trade so bad and be so good at it he'll stop at nothing. He has a competitive streak in him ("I will go to any lengths" thing which makes him seem more J than P to me, but I don't know... He certainly appreciates someone who can bend the rules enough to infuse something new into a dish... So that one's tricky.
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    You people must be really bad at typing if you think he's in any way, shape, or form an ENTP. The guy is a detail-oriented, bossy as fuck micromanager that yells at people all day long. He's a paragon of practical thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    You people must be really bad at typing if you think he's in any way, shape, or form an ENTP. The guy is a detail-oriented, bossy as fuck micromanager that yells at people all day long. He's a paragon of practical thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleuthiness View Post
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    Yes, because ISFJs (informing, behind-the-scenes communicators) fit the description of bossy micromanagers that yell at people all day long.
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