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    Quote Originally Posted by poppy View Post
    Shosanna Dreyfus- IXFP. I think she has the ice cold Fi thing going on.
    Exactly my reasoning.

    I think that the jew hunter was an ENFJ because he was just such an expert in Fe... he always made people feel safe or comfortable even when he had opposing intentions. I dunno, he made a very pleasant atmosphere about him even though he was a bad guy and had bad intentions.

    But my initial typing of him was ENTP, but I thought ENFJ at the end after thinking it through a bit more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    Exactly my reasoning.

    I think that the jew hunter was an ENFJ because he was just such an expert in Fe... he always made people feel safe or comfortable even when he had opposing intentions. I dunno, he made a very pleasant atmosphere about him even though he was a bad guy and had bad intentions.

    But my initial typing of him was ENTP, but I thought ENFJ at the end after thinking it through a bit more.
    See, I thought that was more of a show, glossing over his real ENTJ and utilitarian motivations. I got the impression it was really all just a wonderfully construed facade with the implicit intent of this gregariousness as a tool to control and dominate the interaction, not to forge genuine connection with those he was speaking to. At his core he was completely ruthless, self centered, and very much an abstract utilitarian.

    EDIT: I can also see ISFP for Shosanna too. Ice cold Fi is a good way to put it. Not much to go on there, like Orangey said. I think that may be been what I meant, and for von Hammersmark to be ISFJ, might have gotten them mixed up.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    I think that the jew hunter was an ENFJ because he was just such an expert in Fe... he always made people feel safe or comfortable even when he had opposing intentions. I dunno, he made a very pleasant atmosphere about him even though he was a bad guy and had bad intentions.

    But my initial typing of him was ENTP, but I thought ENFJ at the end after thinking it through a bit more.
    Yeah, I definitely see the Fe, but I can't imagine him being Fe dom. It seemed to me that he used it more as a tool then as his primary mode of functioning. Although I could see an ENFJ whipping out that ridiculous-looking pipe

    Re: him being an ENTJ though, as cunning as ENTJs are, I don't think they're ever able to disguise their motives that well. ENTJs tend to be steamrollers even at their most delicate and charming.

    I'm gonna watch it again as soon as it's out on DVD, assuming I don't go back to the theater and shell out another $7 dollars---I really enjoyed it. So much so, that I'm willing to forgive Tarantino for the disappointment that was Death Proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppy View Post
    Yeah, I definitely see the Fe, but I can't imagine him being Fe dom. It seemed to me that he used it more as a tool then as his primary mode of functioning. Although I could see an ENFJ whipping out that ridiculous-looking pipe

    Re: him being an ENTJ though, as cunning as ENTJs are, I don't think they're ever able to disguise their motives that well. ENTJs tend to be steamrollers even at their most delicate and charming.

    I'm gonna watch it again as soon as it's out on DVD, assuming I don't go back to the theater and shell out another $7 dollars---I really enjoyed it. So much so, that I'm willing to forgive Tarantino for the disappointment that was Death Proof.
    Oh I don't know about that. For example, Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias from Watchmen. ENTJ right there, with a phenomenally cordial, pleasant, proffesional presence far like Herr Landa, yet his motivations are completely utlitarian. Does a Fe-dom just ABANDON their home country at the first sniff of a potential clean getaway like Landa does? No attachment to country whatsoever, and once again, utilitarian use of the people around him.

    I know what you mean about steamrollers though. Voldemort, another ENTJ, was a steamroller.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Oh I don't know about that. For example, Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias from Watchmen. ENTJ right there, with a phenomenally cordial, pleasant, proffesional presence far like Herr Landa, yet his motivations are completely utlitarian.
    I don't know as sadly, I've never seen Watchmen But I'll take your word for it?
    Does a Fe-dom just ABANDON their home country at the first sniff of a potential clean getaway like Landa does? No attachment to country whatsoever, and once again, utilitarian use of the people around him.
    Which is exactly why I don't think he could possibly be an Fe-dom, but rather a user of tertiary Fe.
    I know what you mean about steamrollers though. Voldemort, another ENTJ, was a steamroller.
    He did play innocent pretty well though, which would back up your argument of ENTJs not coming off as forceful and domineering all of the time. Perhaps it's just the ones I know, as in my experience they seem to be entirely lacking subtlety and finesse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppy View Post
    I don't know as sadly, I've never seen Watchmen But I'll take your word for it?

    Which is exactly why I don't think he could possibly be an Fe-dom, but rather a user of tertiary Fe.
    True, I'd go ENTP before I'd guess ENFJ, though I still think the ENJ mentality is there: A domineering presence, very "go getter," and very present in the environment as he controls it, while an ENTP would be far more passive/perceptive and a bit more reactive, I think.

    He did play innocent pretty well though, which would back up your argument of ENTJs not coming off as forceful and domineering all of the time. Perhaps it's just the ones I know, as in my experience they seem to be entirely lacking subtlety and finesse.
    Very good point about Voldy, when known as Tom Riddle he played teachers and others like a fiddle, he was very persuasive and remarkably similar to our Hans Landa. You just made the best case for Landa as ENTJ with that comparison



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    True, I'd go ENTP before I'd guess ENFJ, though I still think the ENJ mentality is there: A domineering presence, very "go getter," and very present in the environment as he controls it, while an ENTP would be far more passive/perceptive and a bit more reactive, I think.
    That's true, he does seem to have a very active presence in everything that's going on.
    Very good point about Voldy, when known as Tom Riddle he played teachers and others like a fiddle, he was very persuasive and remarkably similar to our Hans Landa. You just made the best case for Landa as ENTJ with that comparison
    Dammit.

    I'm sticking by my guns anyway Especially as I'm not 100% convinced that Voldemort was an ENTJ. Take that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppy View Post
    That's true, he does seem to have a very active presence in everything that's going on.


    Dammit.

    I'm sticking by my guns anyway Especially as I'm not 100% convinced that Voldemort was an ENTJ. Take that!


    No? I don't want to derail, but what do you think he is?



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post


    No? I don't want to derail, but what do you think he is?
    ENTJ seems as good a guess as any, though he is much calmer and more reserved than most Te doms. I fall more into the "Voldy=INXJ" camp.

    But anyway...
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