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    Default Reese Witherspoon's type, take 2

    We discussed her type once already, but I'd like to start over.

    I am now quite sure that she is an EXFJ and I wonder whether she is an ENFJ or, like Natalie Portman, an intelligent SJ raised in an intellectual milieu. proteanmix and Littlelostnf (both ENFJs) have previously indicated some faith in the ENFJ reading, but if you will bear with me, I ask that we revisit the S/N.

    Interview about Walk The Line (5 minutes)
    Raising money for the victims of Hurricane Katrina (2 minutes)
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    RD: Do you think you're smart?
    Witherspoon: I'm so stupid in some ways. Sometimes I don't get the most obvious jokes. But I think I'm savvy. Like with comedy. I'm not intellectual. My dad is. He uses words that no one can possibly understand nor care to look up. I'm more emotionally intelligent. I can intuit people's behavior and their feelings. That's what I do for a living.
    Okay, so it's a quintessential ENFJ quote, but does it disqualify her as an ESFJ? When watching interviews with her, I don't actually see her 'see through' people the way I normally find that ENFJs do; she doesn't seem to be as naturally in touch with and playing to the responses of the interviewer as definite ENFJ Kate Winslet.

    However, I readily admit I really want RW to be an ESFJ, so my impressions are probably not worth much.

    What say you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    However, I readily admit I really want RW to be an ESFJ, so my impressions are probably not worth much.
    What is the reason you hope she is an ESFJ? Is it to complete a set? One of each type?

    fwiw, there are a lot of SFs who value reading other people's emotions. They often declare a gift at reading others. I've seen that very very often. The main difference is how they go about it. I know SFs who can read body language and facial cues quite remarkably well, but cannot place a new behavior into a framework of 'who' a person is. It is so amazing to watch it in action. I have a dear ISFJ friend who can read nuanced facial cues, but is completely lost regarding certain internal motivation cues. I am constantly bewildered by the contrast of amazing detailed perception of external cues, and a striking absence of awareness inner thoughts and feelings of others. For the S, it's like looking at the complex nuance of detailed waves and light n the surface of the water and extrapolating information about the underlying currents, while the N has a clearer vision of what lies beneath the waves and projects how this will effect surface details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    We discussed her type once already, but I'd like to start over.

    I am now quite sure that she is an EXFJ and I wonder whether she is an ENFJ or, like Natalie Portman, an intelligent SJ raised in an intellectual milieu. proteanmix and Littlelostnf (both ENFJs) have previously indicated some faith in the ENFJ reading, but if you will bear with me, I ask that we revisit the S/N.

    Interview about Walk The Line (5 minutes)
    Raising money for the victims of Hurricane Katrina (2 minutes)
    Written interview

    Quote from the written interview:



    Okay, so it's a quintessential ENFJ quote, but does it disqualify her as an ESFJ? When watching interviews with her, I don't actually see her 'see through' people the way I normally find that ENFJs do; she doesn't seem to be as naturally in touch with and playing to the responses of the interviewer as definite ENFJ Kate Winslet.

    However, I readily admit I really want RW to be an ESFJ, so my impressions are probably not worth much.

    What say you?
    I still hold that she is an ENFP. Even this quote you pointed out:
    I can intuit people's behavior and their feelings.
    That is something a dominant perceiver would say, rather than a dominant judger. Since I believe that she is also an extravert and intuitive, that places her squarely as an ENFP.

    She has the acting style of an N. N's tend to focus more on broad concepts like personality traits and overall goals, i.e. the inner workings of a character. S's tend to excel more in concrete ways: chemistry with other actors, gestures, body language, etc....

    The more we discuss RW's type the more convinced I am that she is ENFP. The more I find out about her, the more she fits the ENFP description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    I still hold that she is an ENFP. Even this quote you pointed out:

    That is something a dominant perceiver would say, rather than a dominant judger. Since I believe that she is also an extravert and intuitive, that places her squarely as an ENFP.

    She has the acting style of an N. N's tend to focus more on broad concepts like personality traits and overall goals, i.e. the inner workings of a character. S's tend to excel more in concrete ways: chemistry with other actors, gestures, body language, etc....

    The more we discuss RW's type the more convinced I am that she is ENFP. The more I find out about her, the more she fits the ENFP description.
    what about her "type A personality" thing? i agree that there are a lot of NF things about her, but I've never met a go-getter ENFP, only ones that are really good at stopping to smell the roses. (i've met really bright ENFPs, but no type As)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    what about her "type A personality" thing? i agree that there are a lot of NF things about her, but I've never met a go-getter ENFP, only ones that are really good at stopping to smell the roses. (i've met really bright ENFPs, but no type As)
    She said in an interview that "Type A personality" really doesn't describe her. She got the nickname from being interested in personality types, not because she has a type A personality.
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    OK, I really do think RW is an ENFJ, and AT THE VERY LEAST an EFJ.

    I don't think most of these distinguish between J/P, but I'd look for Fe or Ne in her quotes. I see more Fe than Ne. I'm not saying that ENFPs don't have a work ethic or anything, I just don't hear Ps making these comments. They're all about flow, not focus.

    "Actors have this influence - people ask about our clothes and things like that," she says. "I don't want my politics to become part of that. It's personal to me."---Witherspoon to Entertainment Weekly, August 24, 2007.

    "Filmmaking is a collaborative process. I have things to add, and whether someone chooses to use them is their prerogative. But I'm not going to shut up, I have a lot to say, and I don't let anybody give me any shit. I have earned the right to have an opinion, so when people don't listen to me, I get a little pissed off."---Witherspoon to Premiere, August 2001.

    "Getting older, I think you just have to accept that we're all just big goobers. I think that's what brings peace in life; realizing sooner rather than later that we're all just big goobs!"---Witherspoon US Weekly, September 2, 2002.

    "I don't fuck around. I don't think it's a joke that people put up $20 million to finance a movie. I show up. I know my lines."---Witherspoon on her work ethic, quoted in Premiere, August 2001.

    "I'm very lucky to have a very great team of people that sort of help me make decisions, help me schedule my life, that kind of thing. But also, yeah, I think it's also about loving what you do and I think people see that and I think they can tell in a film if you're having a lot of fun and enjoying yourself, or if you're just sort of miserable and sleepwalking. I really love what I do. I have a great passion for it."---Reese Witherspoon on her success to filmforce.ign.com, June 30, 2003. I don't think this is indicative of J or P, but I included it anyway.

    "I've argued with lots of directors, because they pay you to come in and give your two cents about your character. It's going to be you up there on the screen and you should know better than anybody what you're doing."---Witherspoon quoted in Interview, November 1994.

    "It's nice to have people's support and goodwill behind you because there are certainly times when you don't have it. The greatest thing about the success that I am having now is that I've had years and years to sort of succeed and fail. When you have all the ups and downs of a career, then you know this is the good stuff and I feel very lucky to be so supported"---Witherspoon.

    "It irritates me that the sort of fad that 'stupidity is cute' might really be doing some serious damage. It's the cheap answer, and let's hope that their moment fades. Sorry, but I have a little girl."---Witherspoon quoted to W, February 2006.

    "There's no dumb blonde in her," says Gary Ross. "This is a brilliant blonde who was very focused and mature at a very early age. She was always very confident and driven."---director Gary Ross on Witherspoon to Vanity Fair, September 2004.

    "There's something about overt sexuality ... " She shudders. "Like it's scatological or something! I'm all about trying to make movies that have nothing to do with my body. I'm prudish and nervous. I don't have the excuse that my grandmother is watching anymore, but she's watching!" Witherspoon looks up. "It makes me nervous when I see a woman with her midriff showing. I would never do that on purpose, and if it happened by accident I'd be mortified. I feel threatened by woman who ...eeewwww!" She covers her face with her hands. "Like women on the cover of hootchy-kootchy magazines! The way I was brought up, I wasn't allowed to wear black, and I wasn't allowed to wear bikinis. And I was only allowed to wear two shades of lipstick, peach or pink. It was all about what was 'appropriate.'"---Witherspoon quoted to Vanity Fair, September 2004

    "Who is so arrogant and vain that they don't want people to know they're real or human? That they're fallible? We are all just people. That's part of what's amazing about being an actor. It's about compassion and deep feeling for other people's pain or struggle or drive. I never feel above them. I never feel beneath them. That's probably what led me to this profession."---Witherspoon to Interview magazine, December/January 2006.

    On Tracy Flick, her blindly ambitious character in "Election":"Tracy for any actress is irresistible. She was like so many people I knew and grew up with. Everyone knows one of those horrible people that you want to kill because they're so perfect and you can't. This character is for all intents and purposes likeable. But you just can't stand her."---quoted to The Boston Herald, May 3, 1999.

    Quoted in an October 28, 1998 article in USA Today, "Pleasantville" writer/director Gary Ross called Witherspoon "funny and lovely, a throwback to stars like Carole Lombard and Rosalind Russell. She's a phenomenally talented comedian. There's a real life force to her, and an intelligence that many young actresses don't have."
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    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
    What is the reason you hope she is an ESFJ? Is it to complete a set? One of each type?
    Correct.

    You have no take on RW, toonia?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    I still hold that she is an ENFP.
    Opinion duly noted. However, I don't buy this argument...:

    That is something a dominant perceiver would say, rather than a dominant judger.
    ... And I urge other thread participants who, like me, find your arguments for P unconvincing to focus on the S/N dimension instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    She has the acting style of an N. N's tend to focus more on broad concepts like personality traits and overall goals, i.e. the inner workings of a character. S's tend to excel more in concrete ways: chemistry with other actors, gestures, body language, etc....
    What is the evidence that RW 'focuses more on broad concepts' instead of excelling in 'chemistry with other actors, gestures, body language, etc.'? Personally I'd say she nails the latter.

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    well, can someone name a role she played in which she portrayed an intuitive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    She said in an interview that "Type A personality" really doesn't describe her. She got the nickname from being interested in personality types, not because she has a type A personality.
    She's been described as a driving, ambitious, organized type though! It could be very NF to feel like that description alone wasn't satisfying, remember, NFs are obsessed with their identities.

    Her approach to acting & observing characters seems very NF, trying to get underneath the externals, & going to the motives & drives of a particular character.

    She seems ENFJ to me, not ENFP, she's too organized & singularly-focused, I don't see any scatteredness at all, & that's pretty specific to type with Se & Si being very weak functions in ENFPs.

    I think the SJ read comes from her environment, growing up with traditional values in the South, she seems very connected to her culture, & that stands out in Hollywood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chatoyer View Post
    She seems ENFJ to me, not ENFP, she's too organized & singularly-focused, I don't see any scatteredness at all, & that's pretty specific to type with Se & Si being very weak functions in ENFPs.
    I don't feel I know enough about her to comment on N/S, but having seen her in interviews, I don't think she comes across at all like ENFP. I have two ENFP friends, and neither would be nearly as composed and eloquent in an interview (although yes, one could argue Reese has had these skills trained into her, since they kind of come with the territory of her career) The ENFP's I know would go off on more rambling tangents, and agree would appear more scatterbrained, and would fidget a lot more. :-) I mean, they'd get their thoughts out, just not quite as .. concisely?.. as Reese seems to. I just don't see anything in Reese's mannerisms and WAY she communicates, that remind me of my 2 friends and the way that they communicate.

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