Seinfeld Characters

[NewEra]

It seems like she imagines people are always judging her and she's defensively contemptuous of people in response and not wanting to deal with them because she's afraid of being judged as saying or doing the wrong thing. If that's not some form of social anxiety, I don't know what is.

Fair enough, but that still doesn't mean she's extroverted. If she is socially anxious, then she reminds me even more of an ISFJ that I know.

 

[Riva]

It helps when the people are real people and not fictional characters designed for a sitcom about nothing, wouldn't you say?

Come to think of it, Seinfeld is particularly tough because the characters are all just SO absurd.

There's no consensus on this at all, apparently.

Fictional characters are the easier to type.
the better the story the better the character.
better the character the more defined he/she becomes.

take any good film or drama, the characters decisions are based on the character's personality.
and in fiction Personality never changer.
it rarely does.
except in Heathcliff. (note that i have never read Wuthering Heights but have heard about the character)

isn't it obvious, when we watch any drama or film we pretty much fall in love with the character.
this is the reason why spider man is so loved(lovable)
he has the coolest powers, but has the worst life a guy with power like that could ever have + he refuses to use them to kick ass because of idealistic reasons.
this happens again and again and again.
and the viewer is left to imagine why why why why why?:steam:
why does he not kick some ass and use his powers to get his Personal life on top.:steam:

so why does he refuse to use his powers?
his personality.
and it never changes, thus he never uses his powers.
(it should be noted that i did notice that in the 3rd film he did change for about 10 minutes. but he also came bak to being peter packer/the good guy after realizing what he did was wrong. again due to his personality)

But in real life we all know we change like hell.
one minute i am a this the next i am that.

fictional type - easy to type
real life - hard to type.

 

[Riva]

What about people who have an energy display with others that varies? Depending on when others see me, I could be typed as an E or mistyped as an I.

yes but not for long isn't it?
you dont appear to be an I (lower energy) for that long do you?
and your case is same with me.
i sometimes act like an 'I'
most people do think i am an i (people who hasnt spoken to me much/ people i ignore)

in fact at first when i get to know someone i act all calm and I ish.
but once i get to know them and feel comfortable around them i act normal.
which is not that normal to people who see me.

 

[browneyes94]

Agree that Kramer's an ENTP. I personally love his cool ideas.

Jerry seems like an ISTJ to me, he does observational comedy, and usually an S would be the one who notices all the things going around in his environment, am i right? He is an independent person (he likes giving his parents a treat [bought his dad a Cadillac], and in one of the episodes his dad offered to lend Jerry his car, but Jerry refused because he just didn't want to trouble his dad) is a neat freak, and indeed is a self structured person.

For Elaine, I don't see her being an I, because she is always with her friends. She is an S because she's not the kind of person who looks for a deeper meaning in things, 'reads between the lines' or have very unusual or innovative ideas. Since she can get along as one of the guys, we can say that she is a T. She has none/little of those emotional outbursts, she is opinionated, and is not afriad to say what she thinks. And she is not the most emotional person among the gang, is she? As for the P/J function, we can say that she is much more flexible and spontaenous than Jerry, but she still has that ESTJ like behaviour. [ 'May be unaware or uncaring of how they come across to others, May hold grudges, and have difficulty forgiving people, May have an intense and quick temper,' - ESTJ Personal Growth ]

The one I am unsure about is George. He seems like an ISTP to me though. But this is because he seems daring and a go-with-the-flow kind of person.

 

[simulatedworld]

I guess the following, but these characters are very difficult:

Jerry ISTJ
Kramer ENTP
George ESTJ
Elaine INTJ

 

[the state i am in]

ok, so the layers that need to be unpacked for this.

is the real jerry istp, intp, or intj? what is his enneagram? 5w4? 3w4? 5w6? the show character can only be aggregated once we get jerry's real type, especially when the show starts off with real jerry sit-comming. jerry's in love with himself in real life too, his 30 rock appearance and the "don't you know who i am????!" larry king moment show he's a megalomaniac (which suggest istps to me). an intp has a different kind of arrogance, i feel.

kramer could be an entp, the real michael richards is istp?

george is closest to intp (real jason alexander seems intp), george is 100% preoccuppied by Fe bc he's based on larry david.

larry david is entp not infj, strong awareness of Fe but a distaste for it, Ti deconstruction, and Ne ideas for plots and general (hilarious?) bullshit.

elaine is enfj (as is julia dreyfuss). maaaybe entj, or estj. the actual elaine character is full of noise, and the show turns to shit by season 5 anyway. no show should last more than 3 seasons.

 

[Ruthie]

Jerry: ISTJ
George: xSFJ (probably I over E)
Elaine: ESTJ
Kramer: ENxP

This show was short on SPs...

 

[NewEra]

Revisited, my opinions:

Jerry - ISTJ
Elaine - xSFJ (I/E border is fuzzy in her case)
Kramer - ENTP
George - toughest character to type, probably ENTP

Others:
Newman - INTP
Susan - ISFJ
Papi - ESFJ
Puddy - ISTJ
Soup Nazi - INTJ (haha)
Jackie Chiles - INTJ

This show was short on SPs...

Haha this is true, I made my typings before reading this. But it's true.

 

[Benny]

Jerry- seems like a NTJ. He's not very reserved, and he's fairly charming with women. Also he's kind of the leader of the group so I'd lean towards ENTJ. Jerry hates a lot of people, and he hates pointless social gatherings and conversations, but that just seems like an NT thing based on the ones I know. Also, I don't by the whole "observational humor means he's an S" argument. It's every day stuff, but its pretty innovative. eNTJ arrogant, autonomous, charismatic, calm/cool/collected, organized but not traditional.

Elaine- I could also see ENTJ for her. Definitely ExxJ. She's really bossy and always has to be right. Not really the stereotypical "housewife/motherly" type that SFJ's come across as. A little too tough minded to be an NF. I guess she could be ESTJ, but not a very typical one. I'd say she's basically Jerry's female counterpart.

George- INTP. He's is in no way an ISTP or any other SP for that matter. He has to analyze EVERYTHING. "why is that?" must be the most common phrase he uses about every problem or topic that comes up in the show. He's neurotic, not very smooth in social situations, quirky, and not at all sensitive. He treats everything like it's a math problem that he needs to figure out. Finally, George is lazy, not a planner, and has a spotty work record which indicates P.

Kramer- I agree with ENTP. Do I need to explain that one.

I'm not typing the minor characters, I have no idea...

 

[JocktheMotie]

Kramer is ENTP if I've ever seen one. Kramerica Industries, the oil bladder, "the Beach" cologne, the Bro... only an ENTP would consistently try to implement his crazy ideas upon the world like that. He never struck me as a feeler either. And a sensor? HA! He's so haphazard and bumps into everything. No way.

Still stand by my ENTP typing for him, but wow, my justifications were awful

Jerry: ISTJ
Elaine: ESTJ
George: neurotic INFJ
Frank and Estelle: IxTP + ESFJ

 

[heart]

Geessh. I don't even remember what Bizarro George [is that what you meant?] was like...!

Or just the opposite of George?

I don't see George as truly philosophical or imaginative, and his inclinations usually revolve around concrete plans and schemes and social prestige and false impressions (he's a "playah"). And he lacks so much foresight that his plans always fail.

An INTP would be more apt to have carefully reasoned plans that would have both its strengths and weaknesses clearly calculated (George fails to see the holes in his plans)... and an INTP would be less apt to try to implement his plans.

George also seems to operate within the social system, rather than apart from it. INTPs are very prone to complaining about society and how stupid its ideals are; George only complains because he is not being "given his fair shake" by society, and he strives to gain what society says is good. So he plays within the rules/mindset.

The argument is that he is an INTP, but one in the grips of a very inferior type of Fe, anima posessed and this is what makes him so unhealthy. If he were a Fe dom, he'd be able to use Fe to his advantage rather than it being his demise.

The whole show revolves around how unhealthy expressions of Fe can obsess people and make their lives a comedy show.

 

[tcda]

agree with Jerry as ISTJ. Elaine could seem kind of ESTP to me.

I don't see George as having dominant or auxilliary Fe at all, undoubtedly he represses his feelings but can't control them. I'll go with ENTP. But open to the idea of her being ESTJ and him ESTP.

 

[deSouza]

Guys, they're all intellectuals. Meaning no SJs allowed.

Kramer, entp

Jerry, ENTJ

Elaine, ENFJ. She's not a T, she's an assertive, sexually liberated new york woman.

George, a constantly stressed out and neurotic INTP. Shadow functions pop up. He's actually the most intelligent of all of them, but is constantly worried about sex so he can't do any significant work.

Newman: INTJ. Main reason for the feud with seinfeld is a turf fight.

 

[Speed Gavroche]

Jerry: ENTP 1w2 So/Sx

Versatile pattern-seeker. Very manneerd and intelectual, but can fit well with the chaos around him and is immature. Is quite histronic and have the passion of pride. Removed from the real world and too much imagination for his own good.

(Jerry Seinfeld is an ENFP 1w2 So/Sx)

George: INTP 6w7 Sp/Sx

Amoral. Abstract-minded. Shizotipal. Neurotic and coward. Afraid of success, auto-sabotage. Versatile and scattered. The guy who is obssesed with sex and is a specialist of water closets. Confort-seeker. He likes to talk, though, so he could be ENTP, but he does'nt really initiate contact and he's more shizotipal than antisocial, then he's more likely INTP than ENTP. Can have episodes of true courage at time. Also, fake courage as pathetic counterphobic behaviors. Realease an aura of selfishness.

Kramer: ESTP 7w8 So/Sx

The smooth and mad guy who is a proactive operator. Visibly afraid but fundamentally epicure (7), also is sociopathic, can be easily forceful and quite temperamental (w8). Like Jerry, he's So/Sx , fantastical, removed from the real world and has too much imagination for his own good. But he's clealy more action-oriented, implanted deeply in his body and less abstract than Jerry IMO, so, even if his madness can be confused with Ne and if he is antisocial, I think he's more ESTP rather than ENTP like so many assume. ESTPs can be antisocial too. Has a connection to 5: relaxed, independant, don't feel responsible to help people or to talk with anybody.

Elaine: ESTJ 3w4 So/Sx

Gifted supervisor. Very active Type A person. At time genuine and sensitive. Most part of the time is disconnected from her emotions and superficial. Very competitive and critical. Bossy, rigid and easily rude.Compulsive personality. Not sensitive. Oriented to presitge and relationships with her peers and take substitute values and feelings as her own. Has a sexual side, but not dominant or addictive. Very similar with the character of Monica from Friends (another ESTJ 3w4 So/Sx).


Bonus

Larry David: INTP 6w5 So/Sx.

George is a screen version of himself, same MBTI type and same enneatype but of a completley opposite variant.

Overall, they are all Thinker: there's no place for genuine feeling or romantism (that's why it's a great show btw), everything pass through the head.

 

[The Ü™]

The real Jerry Seinfeld is possibly an ISTP or INTJ, but I think his character in the show, being the most grounded of the group, is written as an SJ.

And overall, yeah, I see George as an overanalyzing, obsessive NT in his "dark escape." Specifically INTP.

I see Kramer as an NF more than anything. Not too sure why anyone considers him a T; he's too insightful about people for me to classify him as anything but an NF.

Elane is an impulsive SP.

 

[Speed Gavroche]

The real Jerry Seinfeld is possibly an ISTP or INTJ, but I think his character in the show, being the most grounded of the group, is written as an SJ.

And overall, yeah, I see George as an overanalyzing, obsessive NT in his "dark escape." Specifically INTP.

I see Kramer as an NF more than anything. Not too sure why anyone considers him a T; he's too insightful about people for me to classify him as anything but an NF.

Elane is an impulsive SP.

Lol.

 

[figsfiggyfigs]

Jerry: ESFP
George: INTP
Elaine : EXTJ
Kramer: ENTP
Newman: CRZY

 

[Mal12345]

What's all this stuff about George Costanza being an INTP? George is a schemer, but how does that make him an INTP? He is constantly over-analyzing, but that's because he is a schemer. His personality is more that of a gregarious salesman, his speciality is the sales pitch. But he doesn't understand those he is pitching to, whether it is a client or a prospective girlfriend. His skills are more apt for being someone's shill, but he sets his sights too high as his desires send him to the corporate mainstream where he is little more than a shoe-licking misfit.

6w7 So/Sx and ESFP.

 

[Mal12345]

Almost all of this sounds like George:

http://ocean-moonshine.net/e1428573...er_op=view_page&PAGE_id=34&MMN_position=87:80
Social/Sexual

"This type can be very different from the other social type, because with this type, security comes from making alliances with individuals. Their weakness comes from their self-pres instinct being last, so they are not as independent as the self-pres/soc. They rely on key people in their lives when doubt sets in. Their security comes from maintaining close bonds. They fear rejection much more then the soc/self-pres. This softens the strong stances seen in the soc/self-pres, because the soc/sex doesn’t find its security in organizations and government. They go through life looking for the people they think will be able to direct them. On the down side, they can make individuals into their authority figures and rely too much on them. They are a lighter Six. They go with the flow more than the other subtypes. They are likely to use humor to charm people, but on the down side may whine and complain about their circumstances to garner support. When healthier, their charm, enthusiasm and curiosity are infectious. They are very loyal friends, although that can be said more or less about all reasonably healthy Sixes. But with the self-pres/soc and the soc/sex nothing much more then your support is required, for maintaining their friendship."

 

[Mad Hatter]

Quite possible that he's a J (come on, he's a neat freak! - but that could also be some baby Si thing or something). He's a T, hands down, and slightly more E than I. Still kinda hard to figure out. Maybe ENTP or ENFP.
Elaine - either ESTJ or ENTJ, but probably the latter.
Kramer: ESTP posterchild
George: Probably INTP, but INFP / ISFP would also be possible