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    I use Keirsey to teach new supervisors group dynamics. I like to show movies of the various temperaments in leadership or mentoring situations. I love using Woody from Toy Story to illustrate Idealist leadership and Crush from Finding Nemo for Artisan. I've used Flick from Bug's Life for the Rationalist...but I'm not stoked on it and I'm really stuck on finding a Guardian type. Poor SJs always seem to be the bad guys or the stick in the mud in movies. I've been using Jennifer Lopez in the Wedding Planner, but I kind of would like to try to do an all Pixar thing.

    Any ideas of characters and scenes that would be demonstrative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popstar73 View Post
    I use Keirsey to teach new supervisors group dynamics. I like to show movies of the various temperaments in leadership or mentoring situations. I love using Woody from Toy Story to illustrate Idealist leadership and Crush from Finding Nemo for Artisan. I've used Flick from Bug's Life for the Rationalist...but I'm not stoked on it and I'm really stuck on finding a Guardian type. Poor SJs always seem to be the bad guys or the stick in the mud in movies. I've been using Jennifer Lopez in the Wedding Planner, but I kind of would like to try to do an all Pixar thing.

    Any ideas of characters and scenes that would be demonstrative?

    Thanks!
    Guardian conflicts
    • Finding Nemo: Nemo's dad is a Guardian fish who has trouble letting go of his son. The early trauma of his wife's death placed a lot of responsibility on the dad to make sure his son would never get hurt and he would never fail in his responsibilities. (I think rather an male ISFJ mentality.)
    • Incredibles: Helen Parr (Guardian, ISFJ) vs Bob Parr (Artisan, ISFP) -- the major conflict here is between stability/security vs freedom to act. Helen coped very well with the shift to civilian life, it suited her personality, but for Bob it was a slow death. In the end, they compromise by bringing the family into the adventuring thing.


    Rationalist conflicts
    • Incredibles: Buddy/Syndrome ENTJ, seeks to amass power, uses technology creatively (except, of course, for the darn cape!) to control/dominate others, his own amoral tendencies destroy him, vs Edna Mode (INTJ?) who uses her abilities for good and is more focused on exploring and creating items that combine functionality and aesthetics.
    • Incredibles: Syndrome (ENTJ) ends up using Mirage (INFJ) as a barter chip/bluff in his power struggle with Mr. Incredible (ISFP); Mr. Incredible backs down because his values don't include hurting people in that context (despite being so strong, he's pretty ISFP in his gentle good-humored nature); Syndrome doesn't even realize that Mirage was hurt by his actions, he was just being strategic and pragmatic; Mirage (typical INFJ fashion) is furious because (1) she was not in control of herself, she had been totally violated and taken advantage of and (2) while she admires powerful men, she also has a strong sense of morality and Syndrome not just callously blew up a plane with a children on it but treated her like she was a trinket, violating her personhood... There will be no Second Date.
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    Sometimes Woody is very SJ. He was strongly against the shift from Himself being leader to Buzz and he often tried to set an example for the rest of the toys(ESTJ, I think)

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamathousandapples View Post
    Sometimes Woody is very SJ. He was strongly against the shift from Himself being leader to Buzz and he often tried to set an example for the rest of the toys(ESTJ, I think)
    Woody is far too gentle and soft-hearted in his approach to others to be ESTJ, he leads more by personal example (an Ixxx trait) than by pushing others around.
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    I see Woody as more ISFJ. Quiet and rule abidding. In the end values his friendship with Buzz over popularity.
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    Thanks!

    I like Elastigirl and Marlin for the SJ...I'm going to have to watch them again to find a good 5 minute scene where they are related to in a positive manner. Any thoughts about EVE from WALL-E as ISTJ? She seems directive and procedural - but since she's a robot, its kind of hard.

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    Marlin- ISFJ
    Dory- ESFP
    Nemo- ISFP
    Gill- ISTP
    Crush- _SFP
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