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  • I'm INTP and I'm loving it

    46 23.35%
  • I'm INTP and it's not my cup of tea

    8 4.06%
  • I'm INTJ and I'm loving it

    28 14.21%
  • I'm INTJ and it's not my cup of tea

    6 3.05%
  • I'm ENTP and I'm loving it

    10 5.08%
  • I'm ENTP and it's not my cup of tea

    4 2.03%
  • I'm ENTJ and I'm loving it

    7 3.55%
  • I'm ENTJ and it's not my cup of tea

    0 0%
  • I'm INFP and I'm loving it

    27 13.71%
  • I'm INFP and it's not my cup of tea

    8 4.06%
  • I'm INFJ and I'm loving it

    19 9.64%
  • I'm INFJ and it's not my cup of tea

    1 0.51%
  • I'm ENFP and I'm loving it

    13 6.60%
  • I'm ENFP and it's not my cup of tea

    3 1.52%
  • I'm ENFJ and I'm loving it

    2 1.02%
  • I'm ENFJ and it's not my cup of tea

    0 0%
  • I'm S and I'm loving it

    14 7.11%
  • I'm S and it's not my cup of tea

    1 0.51%
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    I think you're forgetting that he was very good at manipulating the people around him, which would point me towards NF.
    Quote Originally Posted by DeliriousDisposition View Post

    He wasn't really idealistic to begin with, though. The whole "world is doomed" view. Only thing that changed that was the Notebook. It became more than a Muse.. to slate his boredom with and then his vision which was NEW. He never thought of doing it before then-- Once given the tool, he thought about it. If he were an INFJ, he'd probably have thought about it a long, long time ago, especially when confronted with his dad's work all the time or helping out. The "What if (I could change the world/I could help/etc)?" never occurred to him until then. If wrong about that last bit, correct me, my memory is fuzzy now qq
    I would attribute this more towards an insufficiently fleshed out character. After all, you can only apply a personality matrix intented for real people to fictional characters within certain limits. So something you see as proof for or against a certain Type may just be sloppy writting, or may refer to something that is not relevant for the story. For example we know very little about how Light's views before he found the Notebook beyond "this world is rotten", simple because it is not needed to develop the story.

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    I find it intriguing that not a single INFJ has voted that they disliked Death Note.

    But yeah, Light is extremely complex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
    But yeah, Light is extremely complex.
    Or, is he extremely simple?

    It may be that he was in the story to fulfill his purpose, because the story is a mystery, only it's told from the other side. His intelligence and good memory may simply be needed by the story to fulfill the plot, and, even though the story is developed through the killer's point of view, the murderer is still left underdeveloped.

    Or it could be simply that I didn't like Light as a character very much after a certain point. So I could be biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Or, is he extremely simple?

    It may be that he was in the story to fulfill his purpose, because the story is a mystery, only it's told from the other side. His intelligence and good memory may simply be needed by the story to fulfill the plot, and, even though the story is developed through the killer's point of view, the murderer is still left underdeveloped.

    Or it could be simply that I didn't like Light as a character very much after a certain point. So I could be biased.
    You know, the lack of development really bothered me. I was really hoping that after Light discovered that he had been Kira, that he would turn over a new leaf. The fact that he could go from hunting Kira and then back to Kira in an instant when he recovered his memories just proves what a sociopath he was. People who have that much of a superiority complex and who can devalue human life so much, are suffering from some serious mental issues. I think Light needs to just be declared untypeable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeliriousDisposition View Post
    ^

    Right. Okie. Good for you..

    I recall you mentioning how bad it was for you to recall info for school in one of your threads. For a class you weren't familiar with, right? In your Xian college, right? Fascinating and all, but it was hard to shove through all the info, right? And you tried your best to memorize but it was too hard !_!

    So, how's your Si, hmm?
    My memory is excellent when it is stuff that I am actually interested in, which was not the case in that particular post. And just to mention, my performance in that class has improved because I now read the assigned text and then journal articles from online databases that critique them. This helps me get a clear idea of what the professor is looking for and how that particular piece relates to the overall class topic.

    However, my Si is exceptionally good when it comes to topics I am more comfortable with. Let me use psychology for an example. I can name off for you any famous psychologist, what school of psych they were part of, how they contributed, what experiments they did, what their theories were, what criticisms about them were, and how their findings affect modern psychology. I also have most statistical formulas memorized for hypothesis testing, as well as when to use which ones and the criteria that must be met for the results to be considered valid. I can go on and on.

    Please also note that a lot of times in fiction they add qualities (such as a career) to a person that doesn't really match their personality style; it just makes them interesting. This is especially true when it comes to Japanese characterization. They will have a completely innocent IxFJ type of female character who also happens to be a deadly assassin and weapons specialist. This isn't consistent with her personality, but it adds a new dimension to her characterization. Sometimes they add qualities solely for the convenience of furthering the plot or adding a twist.

    Let's also take note that Japan is a collectivist culture and so much of what we assume about personalities here can't necessarily be applied there. The first chapter of my Theories of Personality class stated that almost everything that is taught in the book (including MBTI) can only be applied to Western society unless otherwise specified. Collectivists believe that contributing to society is more important than concentrating on individuals, and so I'm sure this needs to be taken into account. Killing off the detriments to your society can definitely be seen as helping the society as a whole with skewed thinking.

    I'm not even close to finishing the series but maybe more episodes can reveal more about him to me so that I can form a stronger opinion about his type.
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    Here's what I think of the characters and their types.


    Yagami Light-ENTJ (I've heard INTJ but given his 'god complex' and ways of dealing with people- you see more of a power-hungry, highly intelligent, and charismatic ENTJ than an INTJ. An extravert doesn't have to be a lover of people- especially an Extraverted Rational).

    L-INTP (What else could he be?)

    Near-INTJ (Seemed more confident in his deductions but less precise than L)

    Mello-ENFP (Despite his extremely high intelligence, one of his problems was that he let his emotions control what he did- only in the way that XNFP types let them do. I could see ENTP or even ENTJ.. but Mello's Fi is definitely stronger than his Fe and if he was ENTJ that would make Fi his inferior function which it is definitely not.)

    Chief Yagami-ISXJ (Seemed very T towards the beginning but got more F-ish later on, I'm leaning towards ISTJ though, I don't think an F would berate himself as much for 'acting on his emotions'.)

    Matsuda- ESFP (What else? Impulsive and often served as comic relief.)

    Teru Mikami- ISTJ (A serious Guardian who was in love with justice)

    Ryuk- ENTP (He hates boredom and loves apples.. both lead me to say ENTP.)

    Misa Misa- ENFP (In love with Light only in a way that an ENFP could do so. I thought ESFP for some time but she doesn't seem very Artisan in the Keirsey sense but more Idealist. The only argument I have seen for Misa being an S is, "LOL!! SHE IS TOO STUPID TO BE MY TYPE GRRR!!!!" :-p)

    Mogi- ISTJ (A quiet and cautious type who was devoted to the Kira case. I used to think ISFJ but his enthusiasm as Misa's manager seemed way too overdone and planned for an F type. I've seen ultra enthusiastic ISFJs before and they are actually crazy, )

    Aaizawa- ESTJ (Assertive and his strong Te led him to the obvious conclusion that Light has to be Kira and he never seemed to stop believing it after the '13 day rule' proved to be fake).

    Watari- INFJ (L's loyal partner- played an SJ-ish role without seeming SJ-ish in terms of personality. His devotion to helping gifted children develop their strengths suggests a strong NF type).

    Takada- ESFJ (Her love for Kira was similar to that of Teru Mikami but she had a much warmer personality and unlike Teru could never get herself to actually use the Death Note)

    Rem- INFP (She sacrificed herself in the end to save the life of Misa, even though, she seemed to have a good idea of what would happen from the very beginning.. she never took much of an assertive stance against the humans, which suggests INFP. Ryuk's reasons for letting Light do what he desired were very different than why Rem let things go on).

    I have some characters here that haven't been discussed so much in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    Here's what I think of the characters and their types.


    Yagami Light-ENTJ (I've heard INTJ but given his 'god complex' and ways of dealing with people- you see more of a power-hungry, highly intelligent, and charismatic ENTJ than an INTJ. An extravert doesn't have to be a lover of people- especially an Extraverted Rational).

    L-INTP (What else could he be?)

    Near-INTJ (Seemed more confident in his deductions but less precise than L)

    Mello-ENFP (Despite his extremely high intelligence, one of his problems was that he let his emotions control what he did- only in the way that XNFP types let them do. I could see ENTP or even ENTJ.. but Mello's Fi is definitely stronger than his Fe and if he was ENTJ that would make Fi his inferior function which it is definitely not.)

    Chief Yagami-ISXJ (Seemed very T towards the beginning but got more F-ish later on, I'm leaning towards ISTJ though, I don't think an F would berate himself as much for 'acting on his emotions'.)

    Matsuda- ESFP (What else? Impulsive and often served as comic relief.)

    Teru Mikami- ISTJ (A serious Guardian who was in love with justice)

    Ryuk- ENTP (He hates boredom and loves apples.. both lead me to say ENTP.)

    Misa Misa- ENFP (In love with Light only in a way that an ENFP could do so. I thought ESFP for some time but she doesn't seem very Artisan in the Keirsey sense but more Idealist. The only argument I have seen for Misa being an S is, "LOL!! SHE IS TOO STUPID TO BE MY TYPE GRRR!!!!" :-p)

    Mogi- ISTJ (A quiet and cautious type who was devoted to the Kira case. I used to think ISFJ but his enthusiasm as Misa's manager seemed way too overdone and planned for an F type. I've seen ultra enthusiastic ISFJs before and they are actually crazy, )

    Aaizawa- ESTJ (Assertive and his strong Te led him to the obvious conclusion that Light has to be Kira and he never seemed to stop believing it after the '13 day rule' proved to be fake).

    Watari- INFJ (L's loyal partner- played an SJ-ish role without seeming SJ-ish in terms of personality. His devotion to helping gifted children develop their strengths suggests a strong NF type).

    Takada- ESFJ (Her love for Kira was similar to that of Teru Mikami but she had a much warmer personality and unlike Teru could never get herself to actually use the Death Note)

    Rem- INFP (She sacrificed herself in the end to save the life of Misa, even though, she seemed to have a good idea of what would happen from the very beginning.. she never took much of an assertive stance against the humans, which suggests INFP. Ryuk's reasons for letting Light do what he desired were very different than why Rem let things go on).

    I have some characters here that haven't been discussed so much in this thread.
    I was thinking about starting a Death Note character thread, but a search I was almost too lazy to bother turned up this relic. A highly addictive series. One of my favorites. Itís ingenious and intricate with distinct characters that arenít just along for the ride. Anyway no need to post my own list because I agree with all of Mondoís.

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    I started watching this, but it started to get boring after like 15 episodes or so.

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    Thought provoking with an addicting plot. Impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    I started watching this, but it started to get boring after like 15 episodes or so.
    It was great until then... It just started to get messy and pointless I think

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