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songwriters/musicians

the state i am in

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INFJ
thom yorke
morrissey
stuart murdoch
stephin merritt
panda bear
captain beefheart
jack white
mickael ackerfeldt
mike gordon
brian eno
todd rundgren
mark mathersbaugh
sufjan stevens
ryuichi sakamoto
ray davies
joe strummer
alec ounsworth
george harrison
daniel johnston
brian wilson
john cale
damon albarn
paul simon
feist
spencer krug
dan bejarn
john linnell
michael stipe
john frusciante
david gimour
leo kottke
john mclaughlin
leonard cohen
will shef

INFP
kurt cobain
jeff mangum
david berman
conor oberst
elliot smith
wayne coen
stephen malkmus
kevin drew
joanna newsom
tori amos
jim morrison
nick drake
van morrison
doug martsch
robert smith
cat power
jerry garcia
charlie parker
ira kaplan
mark linkous
shannon hoon
gram parsons
jonsi
win butler
kevin shields
ian curtis
syd barrett
sarah mclachlan
j mascis
simon joyner
john lennon
lou barlow
jim and william reid
kate bush
bjork
fiona apple
alex chilton
robyn hitchcock
arthur russell
tom waits
nick cave
jeff tweedy
jeff buckley
jarvis cocker
billy martin
david bazan

ENFP
marc bolan
devendara banhart
jenny lewis
patti smith
karen o
bob marley
freddie mercury
anthony kiedis
janis joplin
trey anastasio
ani difranco
tupac shakur
brendan boyd
chris martin
zach de la rocha
john darnielle
shirley manson
dave grohl
james mercer
john flansburgh
joan baez
gwen stefani

ENFJ
billy corgan
jonathan richman
calvin johnson
kevin barnes
bono
robert plant
courtney love
alanis morisette
kim deal
cat stevens
jens lekman

INTP
lou reed
frank black
david byrne
kim gordon
thursten moore
isaak brock
elvis costello
beth gibbons
beck
pete townsend
andrew bird
roger waters
neko case
john zorn
richard thompson
ben folds
john patitucci
ben gibbard
paul banks
ray manzarek

INTJ
eminem
marilyn manson
trent reznor
iggy
frank zappa
rivers cuomo
mark e smith
ian brown
cedric bixler-zavala
nick lowe
robert pollard
tom morello
robert fripp

ENTP
les claypool
dan deacon
perry farrell
billy joe armstrong
bruce dickinson
jeff lynne
richard hell
mike watt
girl talk
nick hexum
weird al

ENTJ
jay-z
david bowie
siouxsie sioux
dexter holland
miles davis
ian mackaye

ISFP
bob dylan
neil young
johnny cash
mike ness
will oldham
bill callahan
m ward
jim james
sam beam
tom petty
ryan adams
patterson hood
mark kozelek
regina spektor
jimi hendrix
prince
john coltrane
michael jackson
eric clapton
ozzy osbourne
jon bon jovi
eddie vedder
gavin rossdale
jack johnson
chris cornell
joni mitchell
blondie
ben harper
jewel
lenny kravitz
ed kowalcyzck
adrian belew
dave matthews
layne staley
jimmy page
nels cline
sly stone
jimmy buffet
carlos santana
hank williams

ISTP
pj harvey


ISTJ
colin meloy
bruce springsteen
sting

ISFJ
sheryl crow

ESTP
mick jagger
johnny thunders
axl rose
lilly allen
meat loaf
madonna
gibby haynes
paul westerberg
chrissie hynde
bradley nowell
billy idol
henry rollins
mick jones

ESFP
bernard sumner
paul mccartney
elton john
billy joel
tom jones
pink
james brown
louis armstrong
bb king

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the state i am in

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still really unsure about stuart murdoch, leonard cohen, van morrison, bjork, will shef, cat power, kate bush, bob dylan, tom waits, syd barrett, andrew bird, richard hell, and robert pollard.
 

Gioolia

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Never seen Tom Waits nor Van Morrison as INFPs. Especially Van Morrison: he's way too rude and harsh.
Dylan could be ISFP but if you're deducing it from interviews and whatnot altered states (read: drugs) have to be considered. Leonard Cohen has always striken me as an INFP. Springsteen definitely an ENFP.
Of course, these are just my 2 cents.
 

the state i am in

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tom waits as intp? and van morrison could possibly be an infj. i'm starting to think of leonard cohen as infp more so than infj too, at this juncture.
 

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I think Eminem is an INFP. I thought he was INTJ before too, but imo he uses emotion way too much, and his Fi is too high to be tertiary.
 

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Elliott Smith, hurrah! :wubbie:
Eminem could be an INFP or INFJ because if you've ever listened to his music he's definitely in tune with his emotions. I don't know if it would even be possible for someone with a thinking preference to write those type of lyrics. But maybe I'm biased because I want one of my favorite artists to be the same type as me, lol.
 

Gioolia

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yes, intp is definitely more fitting for Tom Waits. I think he's a T with a somewhat high F. But he has a NT-like weirdness/sense of humour.
I'm not sure about Van Morrison being infj, what confuses me is that I get a stong NF from his music, but from his personality and the way he relates to his fans I get more of a NT. So I wouldn't know, you could be right.
Also James Taylor looks like an INFP to me.
 

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Jarvis Cocker is most likely ENFJ, not INFP.
I agree that Cat Power is INFP. Seems pretty standard INFP.
I would add Martin Gore (Depeche Mode) to the INFP list for now, unless anyone wants to mosey over to my thread about it and make a case for ISFP :tongue:.

And to everyone, let's not forget that an introverted NF often appears cold on the outside, and could be mistaken for an NT. Especially INFPs, as we don't have Fe. Good example of this is William Reid of the Jesus and Mary Chain, who seems very abrasive and rude in person, but is an INFP if you look at his lyrics.
 

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Eminem is not infp...there is not enough "pure" love/harmony as say, James Taylor.

Ryan Adams...don't think he's a sensor. If you listen to "The Shadowlands"...I don't know, there's just so much depth in some of his music..."Friends" even, conveys a wealth of feeling that wouldn't be so prevalent in an SF type personality. *shrug* I think he's an NF of some sort.
 

the state i am in

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i looked at it too. didn't strike me as determining N vs S, tho i find his language to be very sensuous with possibly tertiary Ni. Ni is hyper-localized and based on our own little super-detailed webs of contextuality. cadence and sound seem really natural for free-association and for dylan's songwriting in general (not really an Ni type's cup o' tea!). we can do it w/ practice, but i feel like it helps push his writing along more so than a dominant N type, which is all possibilities.
 

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How'd we arrive at ENTJ for David Bowie? Seems more SF or NF with the whole glam rock persona thing.

Great list btw. :)
 

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cadence and sound seem really natural for free-association and for dylan's songwriting in general
[YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-YZFAoHBgc"]Dylan[/YOUTUBE]
 

the state i am in

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Jarvis Cocker is most likely ENFJ, not INFP.
I agree that Cat Power is INFP. Seems pretty standard INFP.

what do you think of the difference/look for in determining gthe difference between enfj and infp. they both can be so disarming on stage! like the guy from los campesinos seems infp to me, or like jens lekman, i can see similarities to both enfj and infp. jonathan richman, calvin johnson, etc. the enfjs do seem a little more deliberately put together whereas infp seems more haphazardly/naturally expressive. also enfjs are a little more oooo look at me dance/prance!

after watching more videos:
tom waits isfp
cat power infp
van morrison infp
leonard cohen infj
ryan adams enfp

it's all in the leading function. andrew bird infp or isfp? definitely not nt when i watch interviews. sufjan is definitely an infj, he's got the infj eye movement. now for some more bjork!
 

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How'd we arrive at ENTJ for David Bowie? Seems more SF or NF with the whole glam rock persona thing.

Great list btw. :)

entjs and estps often look really familiar. he seems more j to me, his phases are always super j tightness. he shapeshifts a lot but it's soooo calculatedly and premeditated, plus the inferior Fi that he has. as candylandjoe always said it proves that point for iggy being intj (which i now subscribe to as well). definitely inj but more controversial, provoking, irritating, lewd, crass, aggressive, etc. how to get from point a to point b. imagine bowie as bill gates meets phil hartman meets music. plus i feel like he fits with the enfjs better than any other group.
 

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what do you think of the difference/look for in determining gthe difference between enfj and infp. they both can be so disarming on stage! like the guy from los campesinos seems infp to me, or like jens lekman, i can see similarities to both enfj and infp. jonathan richman, calvin johnson, etc. the enfjs do seem a little more deliberately put together whereas infp seems more haphazardly/naturally expressive. also enfjs are a little more oooo look at me dance/prance!

Yes, I think that's it.

It's also my experience that ENFx's quip a lot from the stage. Jarvis (ENFJ) and Shirley Manson (ENFP) are two performers I've seen with great stage presence who will banter with the crowd. They move like they know you are watching them. They also connect with the audience, to the point where the crowd will yell back.

INFPs are on stage to be observed. They also seem a little more awkward or unhinged. Fiona Apple dances crazy, but says little to the audience. Cat Power is known to embrace her stage fright and make her awkward moments a part of the show. The Jesus and Mary Chain barely look at the audience, and have even performed with their backs to the crowd. William Reid has said once that he has no desire to connect with the audience. Robert Smith does not say much more than "thank you", unless he's in a good mood and then he makes these sweeping poetic statements and dances really odd.
 

the state i am in

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gioolia, that link is perrrrfect. :)

orangeappled, i can kind of feel it at times but most of the enfjs that are like this still need serious off-time. jonathan richman won't ever do interviews or talk about himself. there's still this distance. they're both F N S T in order. i think the difference between Se/Si might be one of the easiest ways to tell? and eye movement? in one-on-one interviews it seems way easier to tell, enfj is flirtatious and playful and infp is more awkward and feeling little disturbances in their value system and the interviewer's questions/attitudes/feelings. more juggling internally, weighing, etc. infps can be very very clever, but enfjs seem more snappy? more non-stop? infjs are like this when they know their shit (Ni has already practiced, organized, put together, etc), but their Fe is usually just slower than enfjs unless they have already ESTABLISHED something. i think infps tend to draw you in and bait you, infjs avoid you completely or decide to meet you halfway (discourse!), and enfjs tend to lean into you and rub up against you.

also, infp seems like a good typing for martin gore.
 

the state i am in

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anyone know these people?
justin vernon (bon iver)
robyn hitchcock
tom verlaine
daniel smith (danielson)
serge gainsbourg
sam prekop (sea and cake)
sebastian granger
julian casablancas (the strokes)
britt daniel (spoon)
nico
elvis presley
sid vicious
jonathan davis
warren zevon
woody guthrie
kate pierson
erlend oye
brent knopf (menomena)
liz phair
rod stewart
joni mitchell
pete yorn
scott weiland
ted leo
john prine
otis redding
johnny greenwood
ric ocasek
john mccrea (cake)
matt berninger (the national)
tunde adebimpe (tv on the radio)
david sitek (tv on the radio)
tim delaughter (polyphonic spree)
victoria legrand (beach house)
james murphy (lcd soundsystem)
 
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