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    Default Ashlee and Jessica Simpson

    Ashlee: xSFP. She doesn't seem particularly extroverted or introverted.
    Jessica: ESTJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by hommefatal View Post
    Ashlee: xSFP. She doesn't seem particularly extroverted or introverted.
    Agreed. Maybe more of an introverted ESFP

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    Jessica: ESTJ
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gauche View Post
    Agreed. Maybe more of an introverted ESFP



    Agreed.
    Yeah, I think so too.

    Jessica acts like a bitch and she does that in a ruthless way. That's very ESTJ.

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    Ashlee: I keep feeling INFJ from her. IJ, INJ, F.

    Jessica: Come on, isn't she like the posterchild of an ESFP????? EP, FP, SP, secondary Fi, dom Se

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    Jessica - ENTP(?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott N Denver View Post
    Jessica: Come on, isn't she like the posterchild of an ESFP????? EP, FP, SP, secondary Fi, dom Se
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol_ View Post
    Jessica - ENTP(?)
    lmao fuck no....ESTJ...I actually dislike her alot.

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    I also get INFJ for Ashlee and ESTJ for Jessica.

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    How in the world is Jessica an ESTJ????

    She constantly makes F [and Fi] value decisions, and is totally a P. and an SP and an FP and an EP. TJ, how?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott N Denver View Post
    How in the world is Jessica an ESTJ????

    She constantly makes F [and Fi] value decisions, and is totally a P. and an SP and an FP and an EP. TJ, how?????
    LOL I'm totally with you.

    I'm so mystified by this that I can't even respond. I will say that ESTJ is way down on the list of possibilities as far as I'm concerned. But there's no real way to respond to "I don't like that person, they must be an ESTJ". I'm so tired of that line of reasoning popping up everywhere that I'm just over it all. I don't think most people would know an actual ESTJ from a bunny with a pancake on its head.

    She's been a calculated ditz. ESTJs would be ashamed to be seen as ditzy, because one of their core values is to be responsible. According to IMDB, her mother says she had a 160 IQ as a child (which would mean she's still pretty intelligent now even if its degraded). But she dropped out of high school to be a singer. I agree that there is more to her than meets the eye but she's all about projecting a certain image and not about being a responsible member of an accepted community/society/group. So she'll switch musical genres on the fly (from Christian to Pop to Country to whatever seems popular next), wear outlandishly revealing clothes for the attention all while proclaiming her virginity for the attention (like another SP, Britney Spears), and says her greatest fear is that people won't like her. Not an ESTJ.

    There is a cynicism, optimism, and spontaneity to her approach that is not at all like the fatalistic, pessimistic, prepared approach of STJs. I've known a lot of ESFPs, haven't known a lot of ESTJs although I've known plenty of every other kind of SJ. Everything I know confirms what temperament theory says about these types. SPs need to make an impact, and ESFPs in particular want to be attractive (in every sense of the word, not just pretty, but standing out and attracting attention on a visceral level). SJs want to be responsible and belong. And then there's Jessica Simpson.

    The fact that she's perceived as "ruthless" sounds a lot more like a dominant extraverted sensor, since power and manipulation are hallmarks of the type. ESTJs are more serious and when they're trying to be funny either the joke will fall flat or it will be cutting (like Judge Judy). J-Simp made herself the butt of jokes although always seemed to me to be in control of the situation which is again extraverted sensing.

    Now look, I'll concede that maybe she's an ESJ and just not like any I've ever known (strongly do not think she is an extraverted thinker, but maybe ESFJ). Maybe SFP is so obvious as to be wrong. After all, everyone tells me that Barack Obama is obviously an ENFJ and I go way against the grain on that one. So maybe she too is not what she appears. But "I don't like her" is not enough.

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