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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypomanic View Post
    Bush isn't introverted.. even by that definition.
    I agere with that. When you see him talk, he constantly makes of the cuff comments without thinking about what he says, an ISTP would never do that.

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    Also consider, too, that Bush is the puppet of an INTJ (Cheney), which makes his own type deceiving.

    Somehow I don't think an ESTP would allow himself to be taken advantage of. Speaking from a strictly Jungian standpoint, Bush is an Si, most likely an ISFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypomanic View Post
    Bush isn't introverted.. even by that definition.
    You're making the same error by quantifying introversion and extroversion, rather than contrasting two personality types and their functional motivations. Given that observers, especially those predisposed to skepticism, note that one finds depth in the man as one talks one-on-one, it's quite arguable.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRazor View Post
    without thinking about what he says
    That's a misinterpretation. More often, the president relies heavily on a limited set of phrases -- something that an extrovert would never do, or so artlessly. Nor is that kind of public performance unlike that of an ISTP. Put an ISTP behind a podium, politically deprive him of the freedom to speak plainly, and you have a fish out of water.

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    Htb, what makes you think he'd be acting most naturally in an interview (especially an international one)? He's a politician. I know perfectly well what you're getting at. I'm 48% introverted myself.. he's not an SJ. He's an ESTP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypomanic View Post
    Htb, what makes you think he'd be acting most naturally in an interview (especially an international one)? He's a politician.
    Biographies of heads of state belie that kind of cynicism and its suggestion of nescience. It's easy to talk to an elected official, size them up, and compare them to another. And if someone were so skilled at deception, why not project felicity everywhere? Suggested above is the notable difference between comportment with a group and an individual.

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    Less talking more thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypomanic View Post
    ad hominem
    To think I was just appreciating the reasoned exchange. Concede if you must.

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    Lol. Seriously now. That argument was not 'to the man'. I think you're just trying to sound smart... It's not working.

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    Got a google alert about Hillary & Bill Clintons types (it suggested Hillary is INTJ and Bill is ENFP)

    Michael Melcher: Hillary Clinton: Misunderstood INTJ - Politics on The Huffington Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by red13 View Post
    Got a google alert about Hillary & Bill Clintons types (it suggested Hillary is INTJ and Bill is ENFP)

    Michael Melcher: Hillary Clinton: Misunderstood INTJ - Politics on The Huffington Post
    Hillary, yes. Bill? Never. ESFP. Very, very ESFP.

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