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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    If you want to type him under a different personality system that's fine, but under MBTI there's no way he was ENTP.
    i'm typing him under MBTI as ENTP. i haven't been referring to another system in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentura View Post
    i'm typing him under MBTI as ENTP. i haven't been referring to another system in this thread.
    Reasoning behind E?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Okay, there seems to be this weird thing concerning Grant.

    Whenever I see typings of General Grant, he's an INTJ, however whenever I see typings of President Grant, he's and ISFP.

    Did he get hit on the head really hard between the two careers? Because that's kind of a drastic change.
    Apparently, despite being famous for his military career as well as his presidency, he was a fairly gentle, kindly person. Of course, being gentle and kind doesn't exclude one from being INTJ - ISFX is just my rather haphazard guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentura View Post
    oh sure. and even then you'd have to take into account the flawed system of MBTI and how technically, his functions could be in a different order than described. the question is how far are you willing to go?
    I don't often make comments like this but: Why can't you just make one master thread for debating the whole issue of MBTI as a whole and not derail threads like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnamon Sugar View Post
    Apparently, despite being famous for his military career as well as his presidency, he was a fairly gentle, kindly person. Of course, being gentle and kind doesn't exclude one from being INTJ - ISFX is just my rather haphazard guess.
    I just found it odd... considering he was a competent general but generally remembered as an incompetent president because of all the corruption he tolerated, so I thought there might be some underlying bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
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    http://keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=ke...=5&c=jefferson

    In his college years at William and Mary he studied philosophy, the literary classics and mathematics, and the law. He was deeply engrossed in his studies and could at any time, as one of his classmate recalled, "tear himself away from his dearest friends and fly to his studies."
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    Jefferson's thinking had a terrible intensity and he guarded his private world carefully so that others rarely had access to it. Yet he longed for friends and, at least in his youth, found some time to enjoy a reasonably outgoing and cheerful social life.
    extraversion

    He had an unending fascination with philosophy, political and economic theory, architecture, inventions, science and technology. He single-handedly designed and founded the University of Virginia, was the architect for his own home, Monticello, and for the homes of a number of his friends; he also studied a half dozen languages, some mathematics, astronomy, surveying, botany and zoology, and became successful as a lawyer, farmer, philosopher, political scientist, writer, scientist, musician, and inventor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    I don't often make comments like this but: Why can't you just make one master thread for debating the whole issue of MBTI as a whole and not derail threads like this?
    because i love to piss off people. why can't you put reason behind your statements instead of just saying "x isn't y"?

    i made the response because blackcat started the derailing. but you're right, i should not have replied to the troll in the first place.
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    Jefferson's thinking had a terrible intensity and he guarded his private world carefully so that others rarely had access to it. Yet he longed for friends and, at least in his youth, found some time to enjoy a reasonably outgoing and cheerful social life.
    Eh this doesn't mean E. I love having a social life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    Eh this doesn't mean E. I love having a social life.
    and i love to be alone, yet i am E. what gives?
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    Jefferson is often described as:

    Never blunt or assertive
    Almost always appealingly gracious
    Always bearing a slight ambiguousness about his positions
    abhorred dispute
    polite, soft spoken, diplomatic
    In Congress he often let Madison or Monroe do his speaking/debating for him.
    Very little sense of humor
    "sparkled" in private conversation
    Trouble with over spending
    Hid from unpleasant truths
    Could be hypocritical
    Could be vindictive
    He kept detailed records of all his spending but never used this data to adequately control his spending

    How many ENTP would ever be desrcibed by others as abhorring dispute?

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