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    Whisky Old & Women Young Speed Gavroche's Avatar
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    Franklin Delano Roosevelt: ESTP 8w7 So/Sp
    Harry Truman: ESFJ 6w5 So/Sp
    Ike Eisenhower: ISTJ 9w8 Sp/So
    John Fitzgerald Kennedy: ESTP 7w8 So/Sp
    Lyndon Johnson: ESTJ 8w9 Sp/So
    Richard Nixon: ISTJ 6w5 Sp/So
    Gerald Ford: INTP 9w8 Sp/So
    Jimmy Carter: ISFJ 3w4 So/Sp
    Ronald Reagan: ENFJ 9w8 So/Sx
    George Bush Sr: ISFJ 6w5 Sp/So
    Bill Clinton: ESFP 3w2 So/Sx
    George W Bush JR: ESTP 9w8 So/Sp
    Barrack Obama: ENTP 3w4 So/Sp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Franklin Delano Roosevelt: ESTP 8w7 So/Sp
    Harry Truman: ESFJ 6w5 So/Sp
    Ike Eisenhower: ISTJ 9w8 Sp/So
    John Fitzgerald Kennedy: ESTP 7w8 So/Sp
    Lyndon Johnson: ESTJ 8w9 Sp/So
    Richard Nixon: ISTJ 6w5 Sp/So
    Gerald Ford: INTP 9w8 Sp/So
    Jimmy Carter: ISFJ 3w4 So/Sp
    Ronald Reagan: ENFJ 9w8 So/Sx
    George Bush Sr: ISFJ 6w5 Sp/So
    Bill Clinton: ESFP 3w2 So/Sx
    George W Bush JR: ESTP 9w8 So/Sp
    Barrack Obama: ENTP 3w4 So/Sp
    The only MBTI types I am not highly confident of are Roosevelt, Truman, Clinton (ENFP?), Nixon (INTJ?), and Bush II.

    I can't vouch for their enneagram types, but you notice the extremely high prevalence of 3s, 6s, and 9s?

    Also, *chuckles* the very low prevalence of sx?

    9w8 and 6w5 seem to be very prevalent.

    Nine/Ten Ss vs four/three Ns...

    Eight Es vs five Is...

    Eight Ts vs five Fs...

    Seven Js vs. six Ps...

    Very interesting...

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    my guesses are
    George Washington: ?STJ 8w7 So/Sp
    Barack Obama: INFJ 3w4 So/Sp
    George W. Bush: ENTJ 7w8 So/Sp (seriously, watch clips of him when he was younger and when off the air)
    Bill Clinton: E?TP 3w2 So/Sx
    Ronald Reagan: ENFJ 9w8 So/Sx
    Thomas Jefferson: INTJ 3w? Sx/Sp
    Abraham Lincoln: ENFJ 1w2 So/Sx
    Dwight D. Eisenhower: INTJ 9w8 Sp/So

    @Speed Gavroche
    LBJ is SOOO 8w7, not 8w9. ESTJ 8w7 So/Sp probably (compare to Henry Kissinger. a true 8w9 Sp/So)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    my guesses are
    George Washington: ?STJ 8w7 So/Sp
    Barack Obama: INFJ 3w4 So/Sp
    George W. Bush: ENTJ 7w8 So/Sp (seriously, watch clips of him when he was younger and when off the air)
    Bill Clinton: E?TP 3w2 So/Sx
    Ronald Reagan: ENFJ 9w8 So/Sx
    Thomas Jefferson: INTJ 3w? Sx/Sp
    Abraham Lincoln: ENFJ 1w2 So/Sx
    Dwight D. Eisenhower: INTJ 9w8 Sp/So
    Well, this confirms it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    The only MBTI types I am not highly confident of are Roosevelt, Truman, Clinton (ENFP?), Nixon (INTJ?), and Bush II.
    Roosevelt is often typed as ENTJ. But I think it's because he was a 8 that he looks like a Te-dom. Staline was a true ENTJ 8w7 So/Sp, and I think the difference is pretty clear. Staline was a "visionnary" in some sort, driven by a vision, by his own word, FDR was, above all, a pragmatist, and not dogmatic like Staline was.

    Truman could have been STJ.

    Clinton was an ESFP, I think. He was not an idealist, but a charming performer. He leaves me the same impression than the french president Jacques Chirac: an opportunist and an arrivist who is not driven by any specific abstract concept, but ultimately a -funny- president.

    Nixon was STJ, I think. Not NTJ. Too much traditionalistic.

    ESTP for Bush II seems right.

    I can't vouch for their enneagram types, but you notice the extremely high prevalence of 3s, 6s, and 9s
    Yes. That's in part because they are very current. 7 and 6w7 are very currents too, but there's not of them, except JFK. That's because they would be reluctant to such kind of responsability. By contrast with 3s who are very prone to take the role of social leaders.

    Also, *chuckles* the very low prevalence of sx?
    Yes, I noticed that.

    Actually, there is no Sx-dom, and the only Sx-second are the So/Sx Reagan and Clinton, who clash by their unusual colorful attitude for a president.

    You can also notice the absence of So-last. Which is quite natural after all. So, every of them are So-dom, plus the Sp/So. Not Sx/So because they are too much intense and extreme for that I think. The only example of Sx/So people who lead a state are Adolph Hitler, Leo Trotsky and the imam Khomeiny...


    9w8 and 6w5 seem to be very prevalent.

    Nine/Ten Ss vs four/three Ns...

    Eight Es vs five Is...

    Eight Ts vs five Fs...

    Seven Js vs. six Ps...

    Very interesting...
    Yes. So ESTJ. Which is often considered to be the type of the cultural aura of the USA.

    It's interesting to compare with the french presidents. If my guess is true, the typical french president is an ENTP. You can also notice the higher prevalence of Sx (but still no Sx-dom) and also the prevalence of 7w8 and 8w7. http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...11#post1892411
    EsTP 6w7 Sx/Sp

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    I'd always read that Teddy Roosevelt was an ENTP, not an ESTP. I could be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnamon Sugar View Post
    Here's my attempt at typing the presidents. Some of these are mere guesses, while I'm of firmer opinion about others.

    George Washington - ISTJ
    John Adams - INTJ. Maybe INTP. INTJ
    Thomas Jefferson - INTP. Maybe INTJ. INFJ
    James Madison - INTX INTP
    James Monroe - XSFP?
    John Quincy Adams - INTX
    Andrew Jackson - ESTP Obviously.
    Martin Van Buren - ESFP?
    William Henry Harrison - ESFP?
    John Tyler - INTJ?
    James K. Polk - ISTJ?
    Zachary Taylor - ISFX
    Millard Fillmore - ISTP?
    Franklin Pierce - EXFX
    James Buchanan - ESXP?
    Abraham Lincoln - INTP INFJ
    Andrew Johnson - ISTJ
    Ulysses S. Grant - ISFX
    Rutherford B. Hayes - ESXP
    James Garfield - ESFX
    Chester A. Arthur - XXFP
    Grover Cleveland - ESTX? ESTJ
    Benjamin Harrison - IXTJ
    William McKinley - ISFX
    Theodore Roosevelt - ESTP Yes
    William Howard Taft - XSFJ
    Woodrow Wilson - IXTX INFJ
    Warren Harding - XXFP
    Calvin Coolidge - IXTJ INFJ
    Herbert Hoover - ISTX
    Franklin D. Roosevelt - ESTP Yes
    Harry S Truman - ISTJ ESFJ
    Dwight D. Eisenhower - EXTJ INTJ
    John F. Kennedy - ESTP
    Lyndon B. Johnson - ESTX ISTP
    Richard M. Nixon - ISTJ INTJ
    Gerald Ford - ISFX
    Jimmy Carter - ISFJ. Maybe INFJ. ISFJ
    Ronald Reagan - ESFP So Wrong. ENFJ.
    George H.W. Bush - ISTJ. Maybe ISFJ. ISFJ
    Bill Clinton - ESFP Definitely
    George W. Bush - ESXP ESTP

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    Barack Obama: ENTP

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    Obama: ENTP
    Bush II: ESxP
    Clinton: ENFP
    Bush I: ISFJ
    Carter: IxFP
    Kennedy: ESFP
    Lincoln: INFP
    Washington: ENTP
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