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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMoon View Post
    That makes sense. So German society which values punctuality, stringent regulations, direct communication, and overbearing logical thought would be very xSTJ in its culture. It's a lot harder to type sub-cultures such as that of the Italian Americans, however....I still argue that overwhelmingly Intuitive cultures would be rare.
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    In that case, America values ESTJ qualities... think about it...

    E/I - America loves extroverts and prizes them more.

    N/S - This one's the toughest one, but I'm thinking it preaches practicality, although imagination is prized too, but I'd say practicality wins by a hair. Facts are prized, and so is experience.

    F/T - Using logic for decision making wins.

    J/P - America rewards planners, step-by-step workers, hard workers, work before play, getting things done especially ahead of time, meeting deadlines on time.

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    Personally I think it could be argued that the vast majority of countries on Earth could idealize ESTJ, ESFJ, even ESTP and ESFP characteristics.

    What's more interesting to me is that this is an exercise which can probably be better suited to every point on the enneagram (rather than MBTI) finding itself in a national identity.

    From The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Power of the Enneagram by Herb Pearce and Karen K. Brees. (Parentheses are mine):

    Here's a list of some countries and their corresponding type values. These are stereotypes, of sorts, and are meant to be taken as generalities, not set in stone. It's a bit tongue in cheek, to boot:

    Type 1 -- England -- the King, the Queen, rules and order, traditions, strong beliefs, and propriety, though darker underneath with a history of imperialism and Victorian sexuality. Also, a touch of 5, with pursuit of knowledge.

    Type 2 -- Italy -- the maternal side, eat more, emotional, positive, romantic, seductive. A bit of Type 4, too! Drama, intrigue -- the Borgias!

    Type 3 -- United States -- show me the money, image, action, symbols of success, be Number One, materialism.

    Type 4 -- France -- individuality, art, pursue me -- if you want to, nonconformity.

    Type 5 -- Sweden -- learning, travel (<< I might question how much 5s value this), rational viewpoint of sexuality, privacy.

    Type 6 -- Germany -- security, order, details, being victim and dominator.

    Type 7 -- Caribbean in general -- festival, fun, pleasure, being outdoors.

    Type 8 -- Spain -- bullfights, colonization (not a lot to go on here!)

    Type 9 -- Canada -- socialized medicine (France still wins here), low crime rate, peace-oriented.

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    If we're going by enneagram types, I'd say this:

    Type 1 - England
    Type 3 - USA
    Type 8 - China (definitely not Spain)
    Type 9 - Europe in general

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    sweden definitely isn't 5. scandinavia in general is ISXX.
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    American: ESTP
    Canadian: ISTP
    British: ISTJ
    French: INFJ
    German: INTJ
    Russian: ISFJ
    Italian: ENFJ
    Spanish: ESFJ
    Swedish: INTP
    Dutch: ISTP
    Australian/Aussie: ESTP
    New-Zealander/Kiwi: INTP
    Chinese: ISFJ
    Indian: ISFP
    Israeli: ENTJ
    Mexican: ESFJ
    Brazilian: ESFP
    Argentinian: ESTP
    Japanese: ISTJ
    Korean: ISFJ
    Arab: ESFJ
    Persian: ENFJ
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    France is pretty much the quintessential Enneagram 4 country. Russia greatly qualifies too on some levels. Poland as well IMO.

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    i honestly don't know where you get data that suggest any scandinavian country is other than ISXX. but then again what do i know, i've only lived here for the past 20 years.
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    That's just the thing though. No one is claiming it as "data".

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    USA: ESFJ
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