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    Default Poker After Dark: Typology Snapshot

    This is a particularly amusing combination of personalities:

    Antonio Esfandiari - ESTP
    Mike Matusow - ESTP
    Jean-Robert Bellande - ESTP
    Jennifer Harman - ISTP
    Vanessa Rousso - INTJ
    David Gray - INTP


    STPs spend a good portion of the episode negotiating over odds on prop bets regarding guesses at the ages at which other players lost their virginity. "10 to 1 it was after 17!" Such negotiators, they are.

    Bellande actually recounts his days of owning a club and being a CLUB PROMOTER...talk about ESTP jobs.

    Ti-rrific Jen Harman sticks straight to the facts, coolly and off-handedly manipulating the virginity prop bets in her mathematical favor. Also probably eats calculators. Guess that's a running theme with Jennifers.

    David Gray the INTP is always waiting to pounce on someone and nitpick their theoretical understanding/phrasing. He's actually kind of obnoxious at times.

    Rousso is obviously INTJ in everything she does. Conservative, calculated, imaginative at just the right times--don't be fooled by her posh appearance; this is simply Ni's awareness of the implications of dressing this way. She takes advantage of the symbolism inherent in being an attractive and well-dressed woman, which is something of a rarity in the poker world.

    And then the ESTPs just talk a whole lot of shit, about really anything at all. And they're always ready to gamble on another random prop bet just to pass the time. Matusow seems really absorbed in curbing his Se play in this episode and sticking to Ti basics; he's noticeably calmer and more introspective than usual...Esfandiari is his usual jovial smack-talking self, etc. etc.

    Just thought this episode had an especially interesting personality dynamic.
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    *merged*

    Looks like the same show, if that's not the case let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    But not Doyle.
    i'm reading his first book.
    he's not a J. he has that whole spiderweb speech patterns thing going on. very P. very Ti.

    but there's no freakin' way he's an extrovert though.
    we fukin won boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocap View Post
    i'm reading his first book.
    he's not a J. he has that whole spiderweb speech patterns thing going on. very P. very Ti.

    but there's no freakin' way he's an extrovert though.
    Yeah, these days I say ISTP.

    By the way, bear in mind that that book was written in the context of:

    A) MUCH shorter cash game stacks (like 40 blinds instead of modern 100), and
    B) An incredibly tight-passive field, by modern standards.

    Doyle opened the door for modern poker theory by figuring out the tactics for exploiting what we today see as an extremely tight game...playing anywhere near as aggressive as he describes in that book is totally impossible now, but he still offers some good insights.
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    I can't stand Bellandhe. I thought Matusow was hard to take, but he's just a nerd really. Bellande is all "look at me!" quasi-tough guy. Ugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    I can't stand Bellandhe. I thought Matusow was hard to take, but he's just a nerd really. Bellande is all "look at me!" quasi-tough guy. Ugh.
    well that's what you get with an ESFP poker player.

    the dude not only wants everyone to respect him, but he wants them to like him too.

    most of the time, i've only seen one or the other or neither.
    we fukin won boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocap View Post
    well that's what you get with an ESFP poker player.

    the dude not only wants everyone to respect him, but he wants them to like him too.

    most of the time, i've only seen one or the other or neither.
    Werd. We had him classed as an ESFP too. Not that we don't like ESFPs, we just don't like HIM. Did you see that ridiculous ultimate fighting hat he was wearing? Dude. Whatever.

    Antonio kinda looked like he couldn't get away from him fast enough.
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    ^ Interesting, that's the first ESFP professional player I think I've found.
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    I agree with Vanessa Rousso definitely being an INTJ.
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