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    Default Plato: INFJ or INTJ

    Well I can't really provice any "new" info on this i you get my drift but I'd rather like to know your considerations on the matter...
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    If I shoot from the hip am I going to get attacked?

    Eh, scratch that thought. I think he was an INTJ because i seem to remember learning that he was very argumentative. Although I could be confusing him with Socrates ...

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    If he actually created Socrates and all the other philosophers in his writings, then I would say he is INFJ, but if he simply recorded them, then I would say he is INTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    Well I can't really provice any "new" info on this i you get my drift but I'd rather like to know your considerations on the matter...
    "let none ignorant of geometry enter here".
    He sounds a lot like an extraverted thinking type to me.

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    INTJ!

    Feelings and context are to be removed from discussion, says Plato.
    To put weight on those things is sophistry he says!
    Also, how you give a speech is irrelavent, as is connontation.
    Totally an INTJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    INTJ!

    Feelings and context are to be removed from discussion, says Plato.
    To put weight on those things is sophistry he says!
    Also, how you give a speech is irrelavent, as is connontation.
    Totally an INTJ.
    Are you suggesting that INFJs are more inclined to rhetoric than INTJs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
    Are you suggesting that INFJs are more inclined to rhetoric than INTJs?
    In a way, though I think NFs are less inclined to be intentionally
    rhetorical.

    Never the less, personal context and connantation are undeniably more important to Feelers. Feelers are also much more prone to the Sophist belief that truth is determined by point of view, which is extremely subjective, and you know how most Thinkers hiss at subjectivity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    Well I can't really provice any "new" info on this i you get my drift but I'd rather like to know your considerations on the matter...
    I'll guess INTJ... he's very straightforward about things, and is regarded as a great philosopher. And I agree with many of his ideas, so that's probably good for the INxJ part.

    He could be an INFJ, but if he is that means that he isn't a typical one. (But come on, he's Plato.)

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    The republic seems very INTJ, but the "perfect city" he discussed seemed to hint at the INFJ tendency to want to have the world shaped in their own vision. I'm not saying that this is what he personally desired since it seemed that he was simply trying to make a point, but to even pursue the concept of the family unit and any other kind of personal belonging being thrown for the sake of the city seems to relate to the INFJ idealistic-vision-gone-wrong. "Our city should just be one big happy family... literally!"

    Removing feelings and emotions from an argument is not limited to INTJs since I could hardly get anywhere at a University if I wasn't able to, but I certainly wont deny he could have been one.

    After he thoroughly discussed the city, he concluded that the only way this city could ever truly happen would be because of a miracle. So maybe removing the emotions and feelings from the proposal of the city was his way of showing the error of impersonal rationalization when it comes to people. It seemed to be more of an argument of Ethics.

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    interesting but undreadably long, boring, exhaustative. intj.

    i'd rather just have bob ross paint me a picture of his (platos) Ni city/society/city-state. you go, bob. paint that canvas. if infjs don't have a little feeling slip out, they become crazy, disenfranchised, and ludicrous (like intjs). but at least they don't get pushed around/pulled down so easily (like they usually are)!

    now neo-platonism, that i just don't know. definitely not intj. where are you, plotinus?

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