2. She has intellectual aspirations. She doesn't come off as shallow. So she's an N. She's into conceptual art and she wants to be like Andy Warhol. She's not like a sensor at all. Sensors are almost always strongly ANTI intellectual. They don't give a crap about intellectual concepts.
This is thoroughly retarded. Sensors are not anti-intellectual and iNtuitives don't have a monopoly on intellectual aspirations.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Originally Posted by TSDesigner
4. She's ambitious and driven. She works hard. She's a J. Also, it seems like she is directing her own career in a calculated, planned fashion, using long term vision. This is a J thing too.
This is also thoroughly retarded. If Js were the only people with amibition and drive, no Ps would ever be successful.
You...still have no idea what you're talking about.
Go back to INTJ forum or wherever you came from, or at the very least learn some basic typology before you go spouting off total bullshit about how "Ss are anti-intellectual" and "Ps never work hard."
Originally Posted by BlackCat
Anyone who makes strange and random comments is an NP though!
And apparently Sensors are "anti-intellectual." What a crock.
If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?
In interviews, she consistently supplies crystalline meanings for her opaque lyrics, playing along with the kids on the playground who ascribe head-scratching readings to pop songs (like when people decided Cassie's "Me & U" was about giving head). Because it isn't otherwise evident, she's had to explain that "Poker Face" is about fantasizing about a chick while she's with her dude, that "Dance in the Dark" is about a woman with such low self-esteem that she only fucks with the lights off, that "Speechless" is a plea to her father to undergo open-heart surgery. You like self-sufficiency with your multi-hyphenation? This singer-songwriter-disco-goddess-clotheshorse will give you self-sufficiency! You barely need to listen at all: She's like a self-cleaning oven who'll eat the food and then burp for you.
Lady Gaga is definitely FP, but I'm not sure about E/I and N/S. SFPs are crazy physically and NFPs are crazy psychologically. she seems like both to me. I'm leaning toward NFP though because she seems really balanced on E/I (ENFPs tend to be somewhat introverted and INFPs tend to be somewhat extraverted. with SFPs, ISFPs are usually extremely introverted and ESFPs are often the most extraverted of any type). an interview where she talked about her high school career also makes me think N. apparently everything she did was considered provocative or overly eccentric so she toned herself down a bit because she felt like a freak. after high school, apparently she just accepted that she was a freak rolled with it. As an ENFP, I feel kinda like a freak myself trying to fit in with normal S people and TJs. NPs (Ne) and FPs (Fe) both tend to be independent, creative, and extremely crazy and wild. when you put the two together, you can see how people would think of us as freaks. I don't necessarily blame them though, I take it as a compliment.
I'm not too into her music, but I'm impressed by her.. She's only 23, and mega huge by her own power, songwriting skills, and wit. She didn't start out with backing from a big corp (like many Disney tweens) and wasn't quite surrounded with mentors either (like Michael Jackson). The last person to do that was Madonna. Who was an ESTP.. and it seems like GaGa is probably an ESTP herself.
I agree that she is ESTP, even though she seems sheepish and shy in interviews, that may be an act. She is no way NF or NT. Her outfits are extremely provocative, but also it seems that she strips away society's conformity to be a walking display of feminine physique and sensuality with very strong assertiveness traits. A lot of her songs are about sex. I love her two songs that are not about sex. I think they are very well done, not too mushy because she has a signature hard-core, simple thing about her that I really like. I am surprised that I like her this much. She just radiates ambition. And her voice is very sweet and jazzy.
Okay.. she's totally an IXFP. As far as temperament goes, she doesn't seem concerned at all with amassing knowledge (NTs) or possessing stability (SJs). She's very much concerned with aesthetic particulars (she said she spends all of her time planning shows and costumes and the like, and she writes primarily about sex (SP); but at the same time she does seem very much concerned with bringing attention to things that contradict her ideals. And she is extremely idealistic. I don't like most of her songs and think that for the most part, they've been pretty shallow, but I found this: YouTube - Lady GaGa - "Fooled Me Again, Honest Eyes" - LIVE Acoustic Performance
and would guess that this is more along the lines of what is truly representative of her. It seems like she's using the fame right now , and that the more sure she is of her fan base and her continued popularity, the more authentic her music is going to become. I've had mixed feelings about her, as I've loved her aesthetic but hated her music; but now that I've seen some of her earlier work and observed more closely her interviews, I can definitely say that I do respect her.