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    Diogenes - ESTP

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    How was Wittgenstein an INFJ?

    If you want to read Machiavelli, you have to read his Discourses on Livy if you wish to really grasp his political philosophy. Keep in mind that Machiavelli wasn't a monarchist but believed in a republican form of government.

    Anyways, adding to the INFJ philosopher list:

    Martin Buber
    Nikolai Berdyaev
    Lev Shestov
    Gabriel Marcel


    Still deciding on Jacques Maritain. Im guessing INFJ or INTP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    If you want to read Machiavelli, you have to read his Discourses on Livy if you wish to really grasp his political philosophy. Keep in mind that Machiavelli wasn't a monarchist but believed in a republican form of government.
    agreed. discourses is definitely a very good read to get an idea of what machiavelli himself believed to be good and right.

    the prince was machiavelli basically saying, "look, if you *have* to rule as a monarch then this is how it should work."
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    It would be nice to have some more acknowledgement that S types can think too on this thread! I'll therefore suggest:

    Epicurus:

    Reserved in personality, and secluded in lifestyle, advocated this above intervention in world affairs (I, also suggests P over J)

    Strongly empirical and believed nothing that was not based on direct observation of phenomena and logical inferences drawn from them, eschewing abstract speculation (thus the father of the modern scientific method); focused moral philosohpy on avoidance and maximisation of sensations of pain and pleasure respectively; "rational" seeker of pleasure based on these premises (S)

    Highly logical in his inferences, sought to develop unifed and consistent theoretical systems for all his ideas and relate them back to his core sensation-based principles (Ti)

    Relatively "passive", self-based moral philosophy for which he recieved criticism at various times, based on avoidance of harm and maximisation of pleasure to oneself and others; essentially "live and let live", "avoid drawing attention to oneself", "enjoy what is to be enjoyed" (P)

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    wittgenstein- infp
    nietzsche- infj
    kierkegaard - infj
    marx- intp
    heidegger- intj?
    derrida- intp

    what about deleuze? zizek? foucault? bergson?

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    How on earth was Nietzsche INFJ? INTJ would be more accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotr246 View Post
    Not quite sure about all those, but possibly:

    Hobbes: INTJ

    Rousseau: INFP (a quintessential romantic)
    Rousseau was ISFP, they're romantic too but more focused on natural world and life just like Rousseau. Compare to Novalis or Kieregaard as INFP focused on more abstract topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    How on earth was Nietzsche INFJ? INTJ would be more accurate.
    a terrible example of projection. my bad.

    i never realized why i ignore his systematic works and just read his aphoristic and poetic ones. now i get it. pretty much my entire approach to philosophy.

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    what would you look for as signs in a philosopher that he is an intj or an intp? like zizek and derrida and people who are always changing the signs in their systems would be more likely to be intps (Ti Ne), and gruff tyrannical proto-fascist heideggers, nietzsches, etc would be intjs (Ni Te)? more conceptual vs more systematic? is marx an intj? hegel?

    what do you think wittgenstein was? i change my take and go with infj too. his entire life story is never feeling at home in the world. and he was a mystic at heart who hated systematic philosophy. he was poetic. "our language is like an ancient city..."

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    I thought I read somewhere that Hobbes was ISTJ or something like that.

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