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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    She's very well-rounded, isn't she?

    I clicked around on Youtube. Although she exhibits definite E in some of the older clips, I can't get a 'lock' on any of the dimentions.
    That's the trouble with typing professional actors and politicians, especially the older and more experienced ones. External appearances are their livelihood, and they are very good at mirroring and picking up the appearances and mannerisms of others as needed. In some ways, they are the worst possible class of human beings to practice MBTI on.

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    FineLine, once again thank you for your contribution. I don't really recognize CB as an INTJ (unlike Jodie Foster), but it doesn't seem like the female INFJs positively recognize her as one of theirs either. I think I'm going to have to tentatively conclude that CB's just too difficult to type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FineLine View Post
    INFJs don't tend to manifest that "fencing" attitude (IMO). They're more likely to try to use the opportunity to facilitate some kind of personal connection. I think of INTJs as the "fencers" when asked about personal or private matters.
    Now I don't think I'm a cookie-cutter INFJ by any means, but did want to address this comment. I actually do quite a bit of 'fencing' with strangers, or anyone who is not a close friend. I don't enjoy talking about myself, and much prefer to hear about the other person.

    I do agree about the personal connection piece..but for me, I try to get the other person to open up more, and then connect based off of what the other person says, and find common ground in that way. Yes, I'm able to talk about more personal matters, but I definitely 'deflect' initially.

    Once I'm really comfortable with a person, I may open up quite a lot - but in an interview setting, I would totally be more guarded, and would only show certain aspects of myself, and would keep other pieces carefully hidden. A male INFJ coworker is much like this -- I never saw any of his emotional side until I got to know him quite well. I was actually surprised when he told me he tested INFJ - I had assumed he was a T because I never saw the emotional side. But since then, I've gotten to know him better, and we've realized we're a lot alike, and we are quite free in more of our emotional responses, and don't hold much back. Two other INFJ female friends that I have are equally guarded with strangers, and it's only with time that you discover the rich inner emotional world, and more openness in their personal experiences.

    I haven't watched or read any of Cate Blanchett's interviews by the way..I just wanted to comment on this piece, and I don't think this 'fencing' thing is necessarily in opposition to INFJ.

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    cascademn, thanks for chiming in!

    Quote Originally Posted by cascademn View Post
    I haven't watched or read any of Cate Blanchett's interviews by the way..
    I don't suppose there is some way I can persuade you to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    cascademn, thanks for chiming in!



    I don't suppose there is some way I can persuade you to?
    Ok, I just watched half of the clip of the Letterman show, and it was too painful to watch...I couldn't watch anymore!!!

    I'm serious! She was SOOOO uncomfortable, everything about her body language and how/what she was saying demonstrated clearly to me that she did NOT like being there, and she was extremely uncomfortable. She was incredibly twitchy/self-conscious....I could totally see myself in her shoes.

    I would never open up about hugely personal details, *especially* when I'm uncomfortable, and especially when I'm not feeling a connection with the person I'm speaking with -- she wasn't connecting with Letterman, so everything became rather forced...and it seemed to me she thought half of the stuff she was talking about with Letterman was totally silly -- well, there I'm projecting myself onto her. I'll stop now. :-)

    I wouldn't use that interview, and her responses, to point out that she's not an F. She reminds me very much of myself, and my two INFJ friends, if any of us would be on Letterman. Which we won't, hahaha. But I have a strong hunch we'd be just as 'detached'/impersonal/sticking to the surface things/uncomfortable as she was - but still trying to do the interview thing, and trying to put on a good face and *trying* to enjoy ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cascademn View Post
    Ok, I just watched half of the clip of the Letterman show, and it was too painful to watch...I couldn't watch anymore!!!
    Thank you!

    *reopens case for CB as INFJ*

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    In fact, after watching a few of her interviews, she strikes me as more of a 'T' than an 'F'. Compare her mannerisms, for instance, with a fairly clear INFJ like Feist. I think there is a big difference, though it's hard for me to explain it here. It's just a sense of warmth thing...I don't really get that much from Blanchett.

    And I know that many INFJs are very reserved and can come off as 'cold', but in my perception (and from my experience) I'm always able to detect an underlying warmth. This probably isn't much of an argument, though...

    In cases where there isn't a VERY clear preference, I find it almost impossible to determine T or F without resorting to these intuitive type impressions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    In fact, after watching a few of her interviews, she strikes me as more of a 'T' than an 'F'. Compare her mannerisms, for instance, with a fairly clear INFJ like Feist. I think there is a big difference, though it's hard for me to explain it here. It's just a sense of warmth thing...I don't really get that much from Blanchett.

    And I know that many INFJs are very reserved and can come off as 'cold', but in my perception (and from my experience) I'm always able to detect an underlying warmth.
    I take your point. INTX.

    I think INTP because would an INTJ not come across as more resolutely introverted than she does?
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