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    Dear all,

    I know that we have discussed this several times earlier. I do not expect us to come to an agreement, but I would appreciate it if the users with an opinion on the subject would post their arguments for Socrates as eigther INTP or ENTP, preferably in bullet-point form.

    I'll start:

    INTP: Indulged in solitary meditations where he neglected his appearance and social appointments.

    INTP: Very Ti-driven in dissecting the arguments of others.

    ENTP: Died talking, and died of talking.

    ENTP: Philosophical doctrine is extensive rather than deep.

    Etc.

    PS: To the people who would problematize the historical source material on Socrates, these are the sources that I consider the most historically acurate:

    * Apology * Charmides * Crito * Euthyphro * Ion * Laches
    * Lesser Hippias * Lysis * Menexenus * Protagoras

    Works that _cannot_ be used to type the historical Socrates:

    * Republic * Laws
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    Dear all,

    I know that we have discussed this several times earlier. I do not expect us to come to an agreement, but I would appreciate it if the users with an opinion on the subject would post their arguments for Socrates as eigther INTP or ENTP, preferably in bullet-point form.

    I'll start:

    INTP: Indulged in solitary meditations where he neglected his appearance and social appointments.

    INTP: Very Ti-driven in dissecting the arguments of others.

    ENTP: Died talking, and died of talking.

    ENTP: Philosophical doctrine is extensive rather than deep.

    Etc.

    PS: To the people who would problematize the historical source material on Socrates, these are the sources that I consider the most historically acurate:

    * Apology * Charmides * Crito * Euthyphro * Ion * Laches
    * Lesser Hippias * Lysis * Menexenus * Protagoras

    Works that _cannot_ be used to type the historical Socrates:

    * Republic * Laws
    Well atleast we agree he was NTP so hahahahahaha NTJs!

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    an INTP would act extraverted when drinking as much and as often as Socrates did.... so, difficult to tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozflubber View Post
    an INTP would act extraverted when drinking as much and as often as Socrates did.... so, difficult to tell
    True, I'm more social than most E's after a few shots.

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    is that true for all introverted types do you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erinavery View Post
    is that true for all introverted types do you know?
    I definitely know this to be true for most INT's and IST's. But I have absolutely no idea about INF's or ISF's.

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    Socrates is violently rolling around in his grave right now at the suggestion that he wasn't an INTP.

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    Socrates was told to always be running around in the market place arguing for sports.
    He never had the patience to write anything, plato actually had to do all the 'serious work' for him.

    Plato seems more of an INTJ, maybe INTP.
    The effect socrates had on him and the dynamic of their relation reminds me very much of the effect I have on my intp and intj friends.

    Additionaly, If socrates was an introvert, his interpretation and translation of socrates' teachings could feel introvertish, but all the stories about his social life in athens are pretty much E traits.

    His general patern really reminds me of an entp.

    Also socrates had been said to be really ugly, this might have given him some apparently I traits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post

    Also socrates had been said to be really ugly, this might have given him some apparently I traits.
    oh yeah, in that case he has to be an INTP. lol

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    He never had the patience to write anything, plato actually had to do all the 'serious work' for him.

    That's because only slaves were scribes in ancient Greece.... very few scholars in Athens had the ability to write. They presented everything orally.

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