Bulletpoints for Socrates as INTP or ENTP

[Blackwater]

Dear all,

I know that we have discussed this several times earlier. I do not expect us to come to an agreement, but I would appreciate it if the users with an opinion on the subject would post their arguments for Socrates as eigther INTP or ENTP, preferably in bullet-point form.

I'll start:

INTP: Indulged in solitary meditations where he neglected his appearance and social appointments.

INTP: Very Ti-driven in dissecting the arguments of others.

ENTP: Died talking, and died of talking.

ENTP: Philosophical doctrine is extensive rather than deep.

Etc.

PS: To the people who would problematize the historical source material on Socrates, these are the sources that I consider the most historically acurate:

* Apology * Charmides * Crito * Euthyphro * Ion * Laches
* Lesser Hippias * Lysis * Menexenus * Protagoras

Works that _cannot_ be used to type the historical Socrates:

* Republic * Laws

 

[CJ99]

Dear all,

I know that we have discussed this several times earlier. I do not expect us to come to an agreement, but I would appreciate it if the users with an opinion on the subject would post their arguments for Socrates as eigther INTP or ENTP, preferably in bullet-point form.

I'll start:

INTP: Indulged in solitary meditations where he neglected his appearance and social appointments.

INTP: Very Ti-driven in dissecting the arguments of others.

ENTP: Died talking, and died of talking.

ENTP: Philosophical doctrine is extensive rather than deep.

Etc.

PS: To the people who would problematize the historical source material on Socrates, these are the sources that I consider the most historically acurate:

* Apology * Charmides * Crito * Euthyphro * Ion * Laches
* Lesser Hippias * Lysis * Menexenus * Protagoras

Works that _cannot_ be used to type the historical Socrates:

* Republic * Laws

Well atleast we agree he was NTP so hahahahahaha NTJs!

 

[nozflubber]

an INTP would act extraverted when drinking as much and as often as Socrates did.... so, difficult to tell

 

[Darjur]

an INTP would act extraverted when drinking as much and as often as Socrates did.... so, difficult to tell

True, I'm more social than most E's after a few shots.

 

[Lady_X]

is that true for all introverted types do you know?

 

[Darjur]

is that true for all introverted types do you know?

I definitely know this to be true for most INT's and IST's. But I have absolutely no idea about INF's or ISF's.

 

[ajblaise]

Socrates is violently rolling around in his grave right now at the suggestion that he wasn't an INTP.

 

[EcK]

Socrates was told to always be running around in the market place arguing for sports.
He never had the patience to write anything, plato actually had to do all the 'serious work' for him.

Plato seems more of an INTJ, maybe INTP.
The effect socrates had on him and the dynamic of their relation reminds me very much of the effect I have on my intp and intj friends.

Additionaly, If socrates was an introvert, his interpretation and translation of socrates' teachings could feel introvertish, but all the stories about his social life in athens are pretty much E traits.

His general patern really reminds me of an entp.

Also socrates had been said to be really ugly, this might have given him some apparently I traits.

 

[Riva]

Also socrates had been said to be really ugly, this might have given him some apparently I traits.

oh yeah, in that case he has to be an INTP. lol

 

[nozflubber]

He never had the patience to write anything, plato actually had to do all the 'serious work' for him.

That's because only slaves were scribes in ancient Greece.... very few scholars in Athens had the ability to write. They presented everything orally.

 

[CJ99]

I thought of one against him being an ENTP.

Socrates is known for being extremely modest which would be very unusual for an ENTP.

 

[Prototype]

Dear all,

I know that we have discussed this several times earlier. I do not expect us to come to an agreement, but I would appreciate it if the users with an opinion on the subject would post their arguments for Socrates as eigther INTP or ENTP, preferably in bullet-point form.

I'll start:

INTP: Indulged in solitary meditations where he neglected his appearance and social appointments.

INTP: Very Ti-driven in dissecting the arguments of others.

ENTP: Died talking, and died of talking.

ENTP: Philosophical doctrine is extensive rather than deep.

Etc.

PS: To the people who would problematize the historical source material on Socrates, these are the sources that I consider the most historically acurate:

* Apology * Charmides * Crito * Euthyphro * Ion * Laches
* Lesser Hippias * Lysis * Menexenus * Protagoras

Works that _cannot_ be used to type the historical Socrates:

* Republic * Laws

I'm curious about how one would be able to type Socrates without actually observing his projected personality.

 

[ThatsWhatHeSaid]

Moved from NT Rationale.

 

[The Ü™]

an INTP would act extraverted when drinking as much and as often as Socrates did.... so, difficult to tell

Interestingly, however, it was drinking that stopped him from talking.

 

[Proselyte]

I read that he is E because he seems I through Plato, who was I. I personally feel that an Introvert like Plato would represent an Extrovert as a very big personality.
Anyway, Socrates never wrote anything down, which seems more an I because an Extrovert is focused on the outside world and would seek to record in the outside world anyway. Basically INTP is superior to ENTP.