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    Quote Originally Posted by lemons View Post
    I agree Ravana. Picard is much more Te and legalist. INTJs are too impressionable and realist for his role. More importantly ENTJs are strong team-based leaders. INTJs are much more in it to be completely in charge, plan and assign a system of lesser roles to people. ENTJs are less inclined to act quickly in critical circumstances than INTJs, so that I don't know about.
    THANK YOU! for agreeing with me.

    "INTJs are too impressionable" i noticed this in my INTJ friends. but they are my friends. i didn't know that it is true in other INTJs. and i am yet to realize this in INTJs in critical situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lrathbon View Post
    Hmm, what strikes me as odd is that Picard is an INTJ and Data is an INTP and yet they are good friends and get along well. Don't INTPs and INTJs usually have a hard time getting along? I guess with Picard as a likely 1w9 INTJ rather than, say, a 5w4, we avoid the usual petty arguments those two types often find themselves in... any thoughts?
    Quote Originally Posted by TPol View Post
    My husband is an INTJ. If I remember correctly, he is a 1w9. I am mostly an INTP. I'm not sure whether we are an exception to a commonality or the rumor is wrong, but we get along pretty well.
    Never heard such a rumor. I'm INTJ, and I've always gotten along fine with INTPs of either gender.

    TOS:

    Kirk: ESTP
    Spock: INTP
    Scotty: ESTJ
    McCoy: ENFJ

    Anyway, Spock has always struck me as an INTP. The way he expresses himself with such certainty gives him an INTJ-like flair, but I think his thinking process is more expressly logical than intuitive. INTPs who have chewed on a problem long enough to work out its logic such that they fully believe themselves to be correct can represent themselves with the same kind of certainty that comes reflexively to INTJs. But with Spock the certainty isn't reflexive. It's the steel trap of flawless formal logic.

    Just my take. Your milage may vary.

    TNG:

    Caiptan Picard : INTJ
    William Riker: ESTP
    Data: INTP
    Geordi La Forge: INFP/ISFP
    Doctor Crusher: INFJ/ISFJ
    Diana Troy: INFP
    Wesley Crusher: INFP
    Worf: ISTJ
    Chief O' Brien: ISTJ
    Barclay: INTP
    Guinan: INFP/INFJ

    To my read, Giordi seems far too gentle, patient, flexible, and sensitive for a hard-charging ETJ.

    Voyager:

    Janeway: ENTJ
    Chakotay: INFJ
    Paris: ESTP
    Belanna: ESTJ
    Harry Kim: ENFJ
    Tuvok: INTJ
    Neelix: ENFP/ESFP
    The Doctor: ENTP
    Seven: INTP/INTJ
    Kes: INFP
    Vorik: INTP

    Chakotay: very into his private search for self and understanding other viewpoints, but still a stand-alone individual, not a joiner; Harry Kim: constantly thinking about his parents and worried about how his absence might effect them, constantly full of hope and idealism (that THIS time, they're going top get home). Both seem very much "NF" types to me.

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    I'd peg Scotty a Ti type before Spock even. He proposed more subjective thinking and theoretical workarounds than anyone (besides Kirk maybe), rather than be a steward of objective data or protocol...or what have you. Maybe his down-homey Scottish nature gives him an ESTJ vibe, I don't know, but I don't think he acts like one at all.

    Same with Seven. More INTP than Spock.

    Neelix is like the alien version of a doting grandma ESFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    Disclaimer: only seen up to season 4.

    My guess is either INFJ or possibly INFP. But she's portrayed as the most mature character on the show, which means she's gonna come across as pretty balanced in all areas.

    Bartending isn't as sociable a job as it may seem, but it's the perfect job to watch people from without getting especially involved. Especially with all the dim lights. Plus, she rarely seems to seek out other people's company unless they have a problem she has to fix. She seems to prefer to stay in the background. So I don't think she's an E.

    She's always giving people the bigger picture and how their problems fit into that (giving them perspective), which suggests N. And she's usually helping people with emotional problems especially, which suggests NF to me.

    No clue when it comes to J/P. Leaning towards very balanced J. But she could easily be a P, because she seems (as has been mentioned) to see many different perspectives and she never seems to judge people for their failings.

    Edit: I don't think she's a T because she seems more concerned with people than with anything else. And if she were an NT I think she would display a drive towards competence which I don't see in her character.
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    In the 2009 movie, I think Kirk is an ESTP, Spock is an INTJ, Bones is an SJ of some kind (probably ISFJ if I was forced to guess), and Scotty is an ENTP.

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    It just dawned on me that Belanna is the closest a fictional character gets to my mom. lol

    ESTJ eh?

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    B'Elanna's too emotionally volatile to be an ESTJ, even one who's in the grip of inferior Fi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    B'Elanna's too emotionally volatile to be an ESTJ, even one who's in the grip of inferior Fi.
    She's a half Klingon whose father left her when she was young, and had to deal with school kids who called her "turtlehead".

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    She's a half Klingon whose father left her when she was young, and had to deal with school kids who called her "turtlehead".
    Yes, I'm aware of her background. Voyager is one of my fave STs. But the way she flips out on Paris and pretty much everyone around her, doesn't point to an ESTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    B'Elanna's too emotionally volatile to be an ESTJ, even one who's in the grip of inferior Fi.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    Yes, I'm aware of her background. Voyager is one of my fave STs. But the way she flips out on Paris and pretty much everyone around her, doesn't point to an ESTJ.
    ExTJs are less emotionally stable than some gives them credit for.
    In the NT category ENTJs are the least emotionally stable of the group.
    Also in my experience ESTJ flips out on their loved ones from time to time.
    This is mostly evident due to their hugely observable natures.

    Also I agree with Kdude is his typing of her as an ESTJ.

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