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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    OHHHHHH, I see how you're doing this, with dichotomies. Well, you got IP right, anyway.

    Why do you say Harry is quick to get the underlying meaning of things? I find he spends most of each book not knowing what the hell is going on. He never seems to connect the dots. Also, there's no way I can see Harry mentally tinkering with a system, or fussing over semantics, or caring about academic pursuits. The only classes he likes are the ones with obvious practical/action-oriented applications (Defence Against the Dark Arts and Flying). The boy likes quidditch, fighting evil, and standing up for what's right. He doesn't care about logical precision.

    Also his emotions constantly interfere with his decisions. He falls into a very obvious trap at the Ministry of Magic in OotP, because he got all upset. He is very easy to bait, and Snape tells him he's terrible at Occlumency because he's to open-hearted and hotheaded. Everything he does is grounded in a personal, value-oriented perspective. I would say his quick-thinking under pressure is more of a Se-Pi thing. He's not cool-headed, so much as he is resourceful and impulsive.
    hmm...but anyway he's a fictional character so he'll never be absolutely congruent with his own character I guess...but think about the chess game or the last time excuses or fighting against giant being...seems cool headed to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomkid View Post
    hmm...but anyway he's a fictional character so he'll never be absolutely congruent with his own character I guess...but think about the chess game or the last time excuses or fighting against giant being...seems cool headed to me
    I don't think Harry Potter is panicky, F-doms aren't necessarily bad under pressure, and they're not necessarily more emotional either. They just favour personal/value judgements over impersonal/systematic judgements. Harry lets his feelings get in the way of his more tactical/logical judgement, that's what I mean when I say he's not cool headed. Also, I should remind you that Ron sacrificed HIMSELF in the chess game.

    Anyway, you're right, he's fictional and there's no way to prove anything. That's why I almost never post in these threads, I just took exception to how certain you were. I disagreed with some of your other typings, but you didn't seem smug about those ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    I don't think Harry Potter is panicky, F-doms aren't necessarily bad under pressure, and they're not necessarily more emotional either. They just favour personal/value judgements over impersonal/systematic judgements. Harry lets his feelings get in the way of his more tactical/logical judgement, that's what I mean when I say he's not cool headed. Also, I should remind you that Ron sacrificed HIMSELF in the chess game.

    Anyway, you're right, he's fictional and there's no way to prove anything. That's why I almost never post in these threads, I just took exception to how certain you were. I disagreed with some of your other typings, but you didn't seem smug about those ones.
    cool, hey I gotta go eat something, can I add you as friend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomkid View Post
    cool, hey I gotta go eat something, can I add you as friend?
    Not if I add you first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I agree with ISTJ for Hermione. She is much more of a "by the book" thinker than "outside the box", and saves the day by remembering useful information and doing her homework. Snape is certainly a TJ. INTJ most likely, but a decent case can be made for ISTJ. Regarding houses, I don't think any kind of rigorous correspondence can be made between houses and types/temperaments. There are too many ways to be NT, or SJ, or Slytherin, etc.


    I've come to see Voldemort as INFJ. His strategising is really rather poor, and his ambitions come off as a huge moral crusade, more like Bin Laden.
    Agree about Hermione and about the Houses, but what's your reasoning behind Snape?

    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    That may be. I think Light Yagami from Death Note is INFJ, and many think he's INTJ. The two are similar.
    Light is an ENTJ, L an INTJ. But of course you'd think he's an INFJ .

    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    IRT Hermione, I don't think looking at how closely she follows or deviates from rules is very telling. I know SJs who blow rules out of the water and NJs who are sticklers. It's much more about how they look at information - conceptual or discrete.

    Hermione is a detail person. She is practically a walking encyclopedia of knowledge - terms, definitions, dates, places, all those little tidbits of information that allow her to snap things into place more quickly than the others. It's not that she's a big-picture intuitive thinker - she doesn't have a "vision" of what she's after, she doesn't spend time conceptualizing goals, or theorizing on topics, or lining information up to create a grand scheme. She collects bits of knowledge for the sake of collecting bits of knowledge, and she's excellent at filling in the gaps.

    For this reason, I would type Hermione as an ISTJ.

    I think many of her actions, in particular breaking rules, are (somewhat ironically) explained by her eminently clear Enneatype 1. Hermione is a moral crusader through and through, and very protective.
    Rowling sets up a fairly obvious "good-versus-evil" dividing line throughout the books, and whenever Hermione is breaking rules, it is in the name of protecting her friends, or ridding Hogwarts of a danger, or exacting vengeance on Malfoy. When she steals the ingredients from Snape, Colin Creevey has recently turned up Petrified, we know that she feels very anxious about it, Snape isn't the most trustworthy or savory anyway, and it's for the purpose of discovering the Heir and stopping the attacks on the school.

    Additionally, Hermione being the smartest witch in her year and clearly scores more capable of digesting and retaining information than most, it's unsurprising that she would desire to push forwards with that, regardless of type. Given Te, she would also have a certain penchant for efficiency, which sometimes entails cutting corners.
    Nailed it

    Quote Originally Posted by Emotionalogic View Post
    Harry Potter: ISFP 6w7 (Clearly Fi-Se)
    Ron Weasley: ESFP 7w8 (not w6; has a hidden lust for power)
    Hermione Granger: ISTJ 3w2 (Obvious si dom)
    Albus Dumbledore: INTP 9w1 (Too whimsical to be INTJ, too ruthless to be INFP)
    Aberforth Dumbledore: ISTP 1w2
    Gellert Grindelwald: INTJ 1w9
    Severus Snape: INTJ 5w4 (I can definitely identify with him)
    Minerva McGonagall: ESTJ 9w8
    Quirinus Quirrell: INFJ 4w5
    Gilderoy Lockhart: ESFP 3w4
    Mad-Eye Moody: ESTJ 6w5
    Rubeus Hagrid: ESFJ 2w1 (He's a caretaker)
    Sybill Trelawney: ENFP 4w3
    Tom "Lord Voldemort" Riddle: ENTJ 8w9 (He's extroverted; he loves having his followers around)
    Neville Longbottom: INFP 4w5
    Luna Lovegood: INTP 5w4 (Believing crazy things doesn't make you a t. Inferior fe is clear)
    Xenophilius Lovegood: ENFP 4w5
    Arthur Weasley: INTP 5w6
    Molly Weasley: ESFJ 2w1
    Fred Weasley: ENTP 7w8
    George Weasley: ENTP 7w6 (A very subtle difference)
    Ginny Weasley: ESTP 7w6 (A definite T in later books)
    Percy Weasley: ESTJ 3w4
    Bill Weasley: ESTP 7w8
    Cho Chang: ISFP 6w7
    Cedric Diggory: ESTJ 3w2
    Victor Krum: ISTP 6w5
    Fleur Delacour: ESTP 3w2
    Oliver Wood: ESTP 8w7
    Dean Thomas: ISTP 9w8
    Seamus Finnigan: ESFJ 6w7
    Lavender Brown: ESFP 7w6
    Draco Malfoy: ENTJ 8w9 (Displays ni in book 6)
    Lucius Malfoy: ESTJ 3w4
    Sirius Black: ESFP 3w2
    Regulus Black: ISFP 9w1
    Bellatrix Lestrange: ESFP 3w2 (She is evil Sirius)
    Horace Slughorn: ENFJ 3w2
    James Potter: ESTP 7w8
    Lily Potter: INFJ 2w3
    Remus Lupin: INTP 6w5
    Nymphadora Tonks: ESFP 7w6
    Mundungus Fletcher: ESTP 7w6
    Peter Pettigrew: ISFP 4w3
    Dolores Umbridge: ESFJ 8w9 (The epitome of evil fe. Prefers to control people emotionally rather than tell them what to do, is totally irrational, treats everyone like children. Evil does not equal t)
    Cornelius Fudge: ISFJ 9w8 (Fudge and Umbridge are classic sfjs unaware of their desires for power)
    Rufus Scrimgeour: ISTJ 8w9 (a tougher Fudge)
    Ludo Bagman: ESFP 7w6
    Barty Crouch, Sr. :ISTJ 8w9
    Barty Crouch, Jr. :ISFP 4w5 (An unhealthy 4 displaying 2 traits towards Voldemort, like Pettigrew)
    Vernon Dursley: ESTJ 8w9
    Marge Dursley: ESTJ 8w9
    Petunia Dursley: ISFJ 9w8
    Dudley Dursley: ESTP 7w8
    Arabella Figg: ISFJ 2w1
    Argus Filtch: ISTJ 6w5
    Rita Skeeter: ESTP 3w4
    Moaning Myrtle: INFP 9w8

    Houses: Generally,
    Griffyndor: XXFP Associated Functions: fi, se Enneagrams 1, 7, 4 Most Common Types: ESFP, ISFP, ENFP, INFP
    Ravenclaw: XNTX Associated Functions: ne, ti Enneagram 5, 9 Most Common Types: INTP, ENTP, INTJ, INFJ
    Hufflepuff: XSXJ Associated Functions: si, fe Enneagrams 2, 6 Most Common Types: ISFJ, ESFJ, ISTJ, ESTJ
    Slytherin: EXTX Associated Functions: ni, te Enneagrams 3, 8 Most Common Types: ESTP, ISTP, ENTJ, ENFJ
    Reasoning behind Snape?

    Tom's vain but veeery private. His dismissive and distrustable behavior, need to keep all to himself, no need or want for friends...
    Vain=/= extroverted.

    Cho is the quintessential ESFJ.

    Draco is ESxP. Waaay to hesitating and emotionally driven too be an ENTJ.

    Bella is an ESFJ.

    Tonks is an ENFP.

    INTJs should be in Slytherin by our reasoning. I don’t think you can use MBTI to type the houses though, it’s more about motivations so the Enneagram would be better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Odi et Amo View Post
    I actually think Snape was an INFP. Lily was what kept him going, so I see Si, but I don't think it was a healthy dom or aux use of Si. Snape was tremendously introverted-but-outwardly-complex (Fi-Ne), emotional, brave, and principled, which make me say Fi-dom. The Fi-Si loop is there, though.
    Agreed. How can anyone see the man as a T is beyond me. He's an emotional wreck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis;2262010[B
    ]I still think Snape is INTJ, but can accept ISTJ much more readily than INFP. He is most definitely a TJ, and hard to see E anywhere.[/B]


    It takes awhile to figure out Dumbledore - meaning you have to read to the end to find out just how manipulative he has been throughout the series, and for decades before. Due to his great age, he has had lots of time to figure out how to use those less-preferred functions, and come across however he wants in order to reach his goal - but that motivation alone is telling. Bottom line, he is INTJ, though quite different from Snape and Voldemort, but see below.


    Actually, no. The more I think about Voldemort, the more he seems INFJ. His grand plans really don't hold together, and have much more the flavor of a moral crusade with all the talk of purebloods, etc., like some religious zealot.
    Why would Snape be INTJ? Agree on Dumbledore and Voldmort as INFJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomkid View Post
    Harry - INTP (oh really? YES REALLY trust me)

    Ron - ESFP

    Hermione - ISFJ

    Dumbledore - INFJ

    Voldemort - ENTJ (yes an extrovert)

    Snape - INTJ

    Minerva - ENFJ

    Malfoy - ESTP

    Hagrid - ISFP

    Cornellius - ESFJ
    You're terrible at this, you can't even recognize a fellow ISFP

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomkid View Post
    Yes

    NT = slytherin
    That's so ridiculous is not even funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyLazarus View Post
    Harry quite obviously leads with Fi(everything he does is value driven, values derived internally to be specific) and has strong use of Se(very action/present oriented, does not think of the consequences of his actions). I see absolutely no Ti or Ne within him, even ISTP would considerably be a better guess over INTP as they have Se-aux as well.

    Also I've always thought it was alluded to that Harry's being considered for Slytherin was mostly due to his ties to Voldemort.

    NT's I've always seen as more Ravenclaw(obsessed with knowledge), with NTJ's as Slytherins(cunning and shrewd). SP's I've always thought of as Gryffindors(Impulsive and aggressive, as well as value driven in the case of SFP's)/Slytherins(practical opportunists), with ISTP as possibly also Ravenclaw in addition to Gryffindor/Slytherin. Being an ISFP would therefore make Harry a Gryffindor/Slytherin.

    Luna is a much better example of an INxP(not sure if F or T really).
    I disagree, Harry definetely displays many Slytherin traits, I hate JK's comment about the hat sensing the bit of the Horcrux in him.

    Being an INTJ 4w3 I always get inconclusive results in House tests, always Slytherin/Gryffindor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomkid View Post
    Ok let me elaborate on Harry being INTP

    I - I think we should agree he doesn't like parties so much
    N - He's pretty quick to get the underlying meaning of things
    T - Emotions doesn't seem to interfere so much in his decisions(he thrives under pressure)
    P - not a planner at all, one of the reasons Hermione get pissed at him and Ron sometimes, cause she is a J
    Not liking parties doesn't make anyone an Introvert.

    Indeed that's a clear sign of T, except Harry is incredibily emotionally volatile and tantrum prone. Did you forget the Order of the Phoneix book? His behavior after Arthur is attacked by Nagini and later when he thinks he has to rescue Sirius... he's hardly rational them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    Would an INTP believe in crumple-horned snorkacks?
    Yes.

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    i have gotten 'you are like dumbledore' on quite a few quizzes. what type is he? is it possible he's ENFP?
    You hem me in -- behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Look Alive_Sunshine View Post
    You're terrible at this, you can't even recognize a fellow ISFP
    harry is more intuitive than I am though

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    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    i have gotten 'you are like dumbledore' on quite a few quizzes. what type is he? is it possible he's ENFP?
    He is pretty whimsical, and also had a love affair with a certain evil INTJ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomkid View Post
    harry is more intuitive than I am though
    He is not Intuinitve, he's instinctive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    He is pretty whimsical, and also had a love affair with a certain evil INTJ...
    I got Dumbledore as well, a, 88% score. Maybe that's part of why I think he's an INTJ himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomkid View Post
    harry is more intuitive than I am though
    Harry and intuitive are not two words I'd pair together being that Hermione pretty much solves everything for him, I mean honestly look at Chamber of Secrets. Hissing in the walls, heir of Slytherin, I wonder what's killing people?

    He honestly sucks at looking at the bigger picture.

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