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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Noooooo!

    Harry is a 1w9 Sx/Sp, fool! (facepalm)
    he's the same type and subtype as Light Yagami? I don't see either Sx or So in him, but I think he's sx/so because of his complete lack of any kind of self preserving behavior. he basically just charges blindly into situations that almost get him killed. this sounds more like your stereotypical sx/so martyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    he's the same type and subtype as Light Yagami?
    Light is not Sx/Sp. He's Sp-dom.

    I don't see either Sx or So in him, but I think he's sx/so because of his complete lack of any kind of self preserving behavior. he basically just charges blindly into situations that almost get him killed. this sounds more like your stereotypical sx/so martyr
    Traduction: you don't see either Sx or So in him but you type him as Sx/So based on pure cliché about that stacking. Sx/So are everything but martyr, and when a few are, they are badass like Jacques Mesrine, or Tupac Shakur, nothing to do with that bland, insipid and annoying kid of Harry Potter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Light is not Sx/Sp. He's Sp-dom.



    Traduction: you don't see either Sx or So in him but you type him as Sx/So based on pure cliché about that stacking. Sx/So are everything but martyr, and when a few are, they are badass like Jacques Mesrine, or Tupac Shakur, nothing to do with that bland, insipid and annoying kid of Harry Potter.
    whups, I meant to say I don't see any Sp or So in him, I see plenty of Sx, my typing of him as sx/so was mostly because he seems Sp last
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    He's not Sp-last, he's very quiet and protective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    He's not Sp-last, he's very quiet and protective.
    just out of curiosity, do you agree with the rest?
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    I'm too much bored with Harry Potter currently to analyse it, but I'm pretty sure a strong part of this is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiasmaResonance View Post
    The fact that Snape harbored his love for Lily for such a long period of time does not make me believe it is unlikely he is an INTJ. I can definitely see an "unhealthy" INTJ acting as he did. Though they are practical about such matters on many occasions, love is a funny thing, and as Lily was Snape's one and only, she was difficult to forget. He got hung up on her because she was the only girl to ever even give him the time of day. There was no one else for him. That, and since it is possible he was a 4w5 (enneagram)..
    I don't have an issue with Snape being classed as INTJ, but I'm having a big issue with Dumbledore as INFJ based on the last two movies/books. INFJ males are not cavalier, INTP males are... and that's what Dumbledore reveals (along with all the Ti machinations and the Ne style hints at what MIGHT happen... since Ni tends to see things as already happening, while Ne is seeing a host of possibilities and assigning them probabilities if directed by Ti). His entire last meeting with Harry in Book #7 is all about (1) good-natured warmth but not really formalized like an Fe secondary would be, it's effusive and child-like, (2) explaining with delight the truth behind everything and how it fit together as he had hoped but he wasn't really sure if it would ever happen [I consider this a hallmark of the sociable INTP, I've seen this behavior over and over], (3) providing autonomy to Harry rather than moralizing (he seems to have no care about whether Harry goes back or not, it's totally a matter of whatever Harry wants to do, and Dumbledore really has no pressure on him). INFJ really does actually have moralistic stances on that sort of thing.

    Anyway, I see Dumbledore's behavior in Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows modelled naturally by my INTP male friends, but my male INFJ friends just look different behaviorally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I don't have an issue with Snape being classed as INTJ, but I'm having a big issue with Dumbledore as INFJ based on the last two movies/books. INFJ males are not cavalier, INTP males are... and that's what Dumbledore reveals (along with all the Ti machinations and the Ne style hints at what MIGHT happen... since Ni tends to see things as already happening, while Ne is seeing a host of possibilities and assigning them probabilities if directed by Ti). His entire last meeting with Harry in Book #7 is all about (1) good-natured warmth but not really formalized like an Fe secondary would be, it's effusive and child-like, (2) explaining with delight the truth behind everything and how it fit together as he had hoped but he wasn't really sure if it would ever happen [I consider this a hallmark of the sociable INTP, I've seen this behavior over and over], (3) providing autonomy to Harry rather than moralizing (he seems to have no care about whether Harry goes back or not, it's totally a matter of whatever Harry wants to do, and Dumbledore really has no pressure on him). INFJ really does actually have moralistic stances on that sort of thing.

    Anyway, I see Dumbledore's behavior in Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows modelled naturally by my INTP male friends, but my male INFJ friends just look different behaviorally.
    actually, this makes sense. he doesn't have any FJ tendencies at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    DISCLAIMER: The members I matched with the respective characters have no relation to their type.

    But yeah, Professor Dumbledore is an INTP (maybe even ENTP), and Snape is INTP as well (final answer). Hermione, I've decided is an INTJ (she's much more a knowledge seeker than a security seeker, not to mention she's quite abstract).
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    actually, Hermione is, by preference, quite literal and factual. she has bursts of Ne when she needs it, but she is more comfortable sticking to proven facts, pre-synthesized information and try and true methods of problem solving. she only reinvents the wheel when required. she seems Intuitive compared to Ron and Harry because they're hormonally imbalanced, impulsive bafoons with no control over their Se.
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    I've very rarely seen Hermione seeking membership with any group, which means she's not a Guardian. She marches to the beat of her own drum, implying she's utilitarian. And finally, she seeks knowledge and competence in all things, and this is especially evident in the third book (and to some extent, the movie), and this makes her a Rational. Her tendency to initiate causes could point toward Idealist, but I don't see it as much as Rational.

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