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    BTW watching interviews with J.K. I think it's fairly obvious she's INFJ.

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    I agree, I don't think she's an S
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimony View Post
    Harry: INFx
    Ron: ISFJ
    Hermione: INFJ
    Weasley twins: ENTPs
    Draco Malfoy: ENTP
    Sirius Black: E/INTP
    James Potter: ENTP
    Lily Potter: INFJ
    Snape: INTJ
    Voldemort: INTJ, although he was very smooth as a kid, and made me think ENTP
    Hagrid: ENFP
    Albus Dumbledore: INFP

    Draco Malfoy is so ENTP it hurts
    Everyone is so ENTP to you maybe because you're an ENTP yourself?

    In the newer movies Ron seems kinda introverted, but in the books...
    And I think JKR must have many similarities with Harry (duh, because the book is called Harry Potter and the...).

    Harry: ISFP
    Ron: ESFP
    Hermione: INFJ or ISFJ
    Dumbledore: INFJ
    Voldemort: INTJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niaurus View Post
    Everyone is so ENTP to you maybe because you're an ENTP yourself?
    What do you think about Draco Malfoy, then?
    If he's an ENTP, he's my first ENTP Villain example, so I want to know!

    I've got difficulties typing him, but my husband (ESTJ himself) says he's an ESTJ - a very spoiled one to who the 'rule' is that he is the best. Does every type claim Draco to be theirs, or what?
    Got questions? Ask an ENTP!
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    Draco is definitely a Sensor.

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    And I think he's extroverted. He doesn't look extroverted in the 6th film, because of all the pressure, obviously. But still.

    ESTP?

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    How can anyone possibly argue that Hermione is anything but INFJ? She has a powerful, classic idealistic streak (the NF), partnered with pragmatism, structure and self-control. She can think abstractly, she intuits the underlying truth of situations on nearly every page (the N factor) and she has a strong understanding of emotions and how others' feelings work as well (look at how she described Cho's predicament in Book 5, her determination to free the house elves, etc.) By definition, N's are people who innovate, who imagine what situations could be rather than accept the way things are. Hermione consistently displays the tendency toward this. SJ's, by definition, are detail-oriented and work to enforce an established system rather than create a new one. Hermione is a great big-picture thinker, even when implementing certain plans interfere with her comfort and security. She is not simply fighting for the people she loves because she's grown up with them, she is fighting for what is the most just and kind course of action for as many lives as possible, always---the very definition of idealist. She never hesitates to argue down the people she loves if she feels they are acting in an unjust or unkind way, either.

    I agree with ESFP for Ron for sure, and have thought long and hard about Harry, and don't think he's an ISFP at all. Introvert for sure, but probably N because of his desire to create a better situation for the wizarding world and his relentless hunger to penetrate the truth of what's going on, starting all the way from Book 1. He is not the most curious person when it comes to his personal history, but I still think he constantly wants to know what is authentically behind things. I think he is actually T because of how self-contained he is, and how clueless to Cho's emotions and sometimes to the emotions of others (which is not simply a guy trait, but a T trait---not saying he is not sympathetic, just not empathic.) He feels for others when he can understand their predicament, but he is deeply uncomfortable and insensitive to certain emotions, invalidates them, and picks Ginny for a partner partly because: "one of the lovely things about Ginny was that she didn't cry." He does not at all talk about his feelings openly and easily, and NT's generally tend to display an autonomy and independence of character that does not compete with the need to be liked. We see how often Harry is the subject of ruthless criticism, and with how strong and self-possessed he remains within that---he has a stubborn pride and belief in his own innocence often associated with NT's. And although he is often impulsive and he is neither schedule-oriented or organized, both P traits, he is always true to his word, true to the decisions he has made, very decisive and follows through for other people.

    Definitely think Dumbledore is an INFJ, through and through. Structured enough to plot out this entire scheme, sensitive enough to choose the opposite path of Grindlewald's in the end despite the allure of power, idealistic enough to persistently see the good in people, extraordinarily insightful about peoples' motives, self-aware enough to understand his own flaws and yet to try to do what he thought was best for the entire wizarding world. Not perfect, but doing what he thought was best.

    Voldemort is definitely an INTJ, the mastermind. Operates alone, calculates and plots endlessly, thinks in a systematic way that is laced with madness. Voldemort's impulsivity, I think, comes more from madness than from an innate personality trait. His instinct is to plan meticulously, but his fear sometimes causes him to be rash and overlook crucial points.

    I think Sirius is totally ENFP---bold, outgoing, passionate, idealistic, brave, impulsive and tenacious, the classic ENFP description. Justifiably angry and reckless due to circumstance. I think this is why he complements Lupin, the sensitive, considerate introvert, so well.

    The twins are definitely N, as they are so innovative with their shop's magic. Their entire lives are based around what could be, rather than what is. Don't know if it's fair to give them the same type, but I think Fred is an ENTP for sure.

    As for Snape, definitely textbook INTJ. And Umbridge---ISTJ.

    Ginny? I have to admit I actually can't stand Ginny, never got a full read on her character, I assume Jo was trying to make her seem feisty and no-nonsense and a suitable match for Harry. I vacillate between ENFJ and ESTJ for Ginny. She seems very unlikely to succumb to self-doubt or even self-inquiry, which are both NF traits, and yet she is fiery and passionate, definitely F traits. So who knows; don't know if anyone else felt Ginny is unlikable and underdeveloped. ESFJ, maybe? She is very pragmatic, a trait that Jo gives many of the strong women in the series---Hermione, Ginny, McGonnagall.

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    oh and yeah, i would SOOOO say jo rowling is an INFJ. fo sho.

    and i agree that draco is a sensor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daate View Post
    How can anyone possibly argue that Hermione is anything but INFJ? She has a powerful, classic idealistic streak (the NF), partnered with pragmatism, structure and self-control. She can think abstractly, she intuits the underlying truth of situations on nearly every page (the N factor) and she has a strong understanding of emotions and how others' feelings work as well (look at how she described Cho's predicament in Book 5, her determination to free the house elves, etc.) By definition, N's are people who innovate, who imagine what situations could be rather than accept the way things are. Hermione consistently displays the tendency toward this. SJ's, by definition, are detail-oriented and work to enforce an established system rather than create a new one. Hermione is a great big-picture thinker, even when implementing certain plans interfere with her comfort and security. She is not simply fighting for the people she loves because she's grown up with them, she is fighting for what is the most just and kind course of action for as many lives as possible, always---the very definition of idealist. She never hesitates to argue down the people she loves if she feels they are acting in an unjust or unkind way, either.

    I agree with ESFP for Ron for sure, and have thought long and hard about Harry, and don't think he's an ISFP at all. Introvert for sure, but probably N because of his desire to create a better situation for the wizarding world and his relentless hunger to penetrate the truth of what's going on, starting all the way from Book 1. He is not the most curious person when it comes to his personal history, but I still think he constantly wants to know what is authentically behind things. I think he is actually T because of how self-contained he is, and how clueless to Cho's emotions and sometimes to the emotions of others (which is not simply a guy trait, but a T trait---not saying he is not sympathetic, just not empathic.) He feels for others when he can understand their predicament, but he is deeply uncomfortable and insensitive to certain emotions, invalidates them, and picks Ginny for a partner partly because: "one of the lovely things about Ginny was that she didn't cry." He does not at all talk about his feelings openly and easily, and NT's generally tend to display an autonomy and independence of character that does not compete with the need to be liked. We see how often Harry is the subject of ruthless criticism, and with how strong and self-possessed he remains within that---he has a stubborn pride and belief in his own innocence often associated with NT's. And although he is often impulsive and he is neither schedule-oriented or organized, both P traits, he is always true to his word, true to the decisions he has made, very decisive and follows through for other people.

    Definitely think Dumbledore is an INFJ, through and through. Structured enough to plot out this entire scheme, sensitive enough to choose the opposite path of Grindlewald's in the end despite the allure of power, idealistic enough to persistently see the good in people, extraordinarily insightful about peoples' motives, self-aware enough to understand his own flaws and yet to try to do what he thought was best for the entire wizarding world. Not perfect, but doing what he thought was best.

    Voldemort is definitely an INTJ, the mastermind. Operates alone, calculates and plots endlessly, thinks in a systematic way that is laced with madness. Voldemort's impulsivity, I think, comes more from madness than from an innate personality trait. His instinct is to plan meticulously, but his fear sometimes causes him to be rash and overlook crucial points.

    I think Sirius is totally ENFP---bold, outgoing, passionate, idealistic, brave, impulsive and tenacious, the classic ENFP description. Justifiably angry and reckless due to circumstance. I think this is why he complements Lupin, the sensitive, considerate introvert, so well.

    The twins are definitely N, as they are so innovative with their shop's magic. Their entire lives are based around what could be, rather than what is. Don't know if it's fair to give them the same type, but I think Fred is an ENTP for sure.

    As for Snape, definitely textbook INTJ. And Umbridge---ISTJ.

    Ginny? I have to admit I actually can't stand Ginny, never got a full read on her character, I assume Jo was trying to make her seem feisty and no-nonsense and a suitable match for Harry. I vacillate between ENFJ and ESTJ for Ginny. She seems very unlikely to succumb to self-doubt or even self-inquiry, which are both NF traits, and yet she is fiery and passionate, definitely F traits. So who knows; don't know if anyone else felt Ginny is unlikable and underdeveloped. ESFJ, maybe? She is very pragmatic, a trait that Jo gives many of the strong women in the series---Hermione, Ginny, McGonnagall.
    Ah yes the overwhelming desire to state your view on things causes you to join the forums and create such a large, emotional first post.

    No, Harry is not a T. He let's his feelings control him. Definitely an F. (Fi)

    Hermione is most likely an ISFJ. Not an INFJ. It seems you have a certain bias towards the Ns. No, Hermione can see the big picture but she isn't a big picture person. She is a detail-orientated study-focused girl. She is certainly not an NF more than she is an SJ. Definitely more of an Si user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daate
    I agree with ESFP for Ron for sure, and have thought long and hard about Harry, and don't think he's an ISFP at all. Introvert for sure, but probably N because of his desire to create a better situation for the wizarding world and his relentless hunger to penetrate the truth of what's going on, starting all the way from Book 1. He is not the most curious person when it comes to his personal history, but I still think he constantly wants to know what is authentically behind things. I think he is actually T because of how self-contained he is, and how clueless to Cho's emotions and sometimes to the emotions of others (which is not simply a guy trait, but a T trait---not saying he is not sympathetic, just not empathic.) He feels for others when he can understand their predicament, but he is deeply uncomfortable and insensitive to certain emotions, invalidates them, and picks Ginny for a partner partly because: "one of the lovely things about Ginny was that she didn't cry." He does not at all talk about his feelings openly and easily, and NT's generally tend to display an autonomy and independence of character that does not compete with the need to be liked. We see how often Harry is the subject of ruthless criticism, and with how strong and self-possessed he remains within that---he has a stubborn pride and belief in his own innocence often associated with NT's. And although he is often impulsive and he is neither schedule-oriented or organized, both P traits, he is always true to his word, true to the decisions he has made, very decisive and follows through for other people.
    No, I'm pretty sure Harry is an ISFP. The bolded parts are actually Fi, they don't have anything to do with N (or NT) in his case. He's not too abstract or intellectually curious at all, he's much more physically oriented (Quidditch, anyone?) and he has a very well developed value system = Fi+Se. We always keep hearing what a brave heart full of love he has - totally Fi. And I do think that what you describe as T traits are actually guy traits Fi users (let alone guys) are not that keen on talking about their feelings and emoting in general, they are usually not very comfortable with other people's displays of emotions (in short, Fe), and I believe Harry admires Ginny because she's brave and individualistic, not because she's unemotional.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    Ah yes the overwhelming desire to state your view on things causes you to join the forums and create such a large, emotional first post.
    This is not exactly polite of you, you know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki
    Hermione is most likely an ISFJ. Not an INFJ. It seems you have a certain bias towards the Ns. No, Hermione can see the big picture but she isn't a big picture person. She is a detail-orientated study-focused girl. She is certainly not an NF more than she is an SJ. Definitely more of an Si user.
    Personally I can't decide between an ISTJ and INFJ for Hermione, but I definitely don't see her as an ISFJ. In the movies, she is pictured as one, but she is portrayed as much sharper, more sensible and no-nonsense in the books. That said, everyone probably has a little different interpretation of her, because she has really many different traits and some might stand out more than others for each reader. I, for once, always imagined her as an ENTP friend of mine who was very Hermione-ish when she was younger, so I see the "T" as pretty prominent and even contemplated an INTJ for her at first. But really, Rowling herself said that Hermione is based on herself when she was her age, and as I believe Rowling is an INFJ, I guess the INFJ is the safest guess (and I'm pretty sure that Hermione displays Ni fairly often). However, she definitely subscribed her a lot of ISTJ tendencies also (why not? a writer can base their character on multiple people / characters / whatever after all), so it isn't really possible to tell her type for sure. I'm pretty sure she shows T, F, SJ and N tendencies on various occassions.
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