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    That is a weird explanation, but I do agree he's a beta.

    He seems much more Ni/INFP to me, for one. His Fe is a bit off, but is usually off base for creative Fe depending on the circumstance. He's in interviews so he's probably trying his best to stick with super-ID because of his value system. in his efforts, he doesn't seem very Se. He seems to value it, but its hard to seem him use it except for moments in his characters' roles.

    Read up on the suggestive function, because I think that describes his Se very well.

    I still think he could be an ISTJ though.

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    Gut feeling: INFJ, INFP, INTP, ENFJ

    So that makes my possible orders of dominant functions look like this:

    IN, EF, IT
    IF, EN, IS
    IT, EN, IS
    EF, IN, ES

    A few Edward Norton basics and influences:
    -B.A. in History from Yale.
    -Mother was an English teacher
    -Father is an environmental lawyer.
    -Worked for his Grandfathers affordable housing company in Japan.
    -He worked as a waiter, a proofreader, and a director's assistant to try to get his foot in the door in New York City while pursuing acting.
    -Hates finance.
    -Hates selfishness.

    My take on all of that is that Ed's an active humitarian and fluent at writing about world issues and looking into history to understand world issues. (extremely INFJ)

    If anything Edward Norton is at the MARGIN because of how well adjusted he is from his vast life experience. Lots of inferior traits that can be picked out as seemingly dominant, so that's the first hindrance to labelling him with a type. Also, I hope you guys aren't trying to type him by watching his movies because he's a brilliant actor who can portray many roles with differing types. Watch his interviews and several things, I think, leap from the page.

    If you guys could watch part 3/7 on youtubes Actors Studio with Edward Norton, Edward goes into detail about his method and being a representation of the character. He really likes to break things down, and dissect things, which is an awful lot like any INFP, INTP, and INFJ. It's the way in which he gives the information though that stands out. He doesn't speak with the facts only, like an INTP (sorry guys, no insult intended). He doesn't work just in theories, he discusses his method by how he relates to it, how he feels about it which is more of an EF trait. However, I think he might be an INFJ who was raised by an INTP mother who taught him to push his tertiary TI button, and if at the margin with a weak IN, weak EF, and weak IT, in that order, the case for an INFJ makes a lot of sense.

    He'd love to be a pilot, and hates finance and he hates selfishness (all very un ISTJ like). He talked about having to get out of his own head, unlike some actors who live there naturally and are the same off the screen as they are on the screen, whereas, Edward has to force himself to move out of his headspace, like what is said about INTP's, INFJ's and INFP's.

    There is no way he's an ISTJ, say what? Dominant IS, with ET, IF. He'd be a terrible actor, unable to tune into the thoughts and emotions of his characters. His struggle with acting does not seem like an S struggle at all in any way shape or form. As well, ISTJ's are naturally disposed to doing all things finance, and would probably find writing screenplays and movies, and studying history to be less than practical or necessary. As well, look at the plenthora of easily identifiable ISTJ actors on this list:

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    Maybe even INTJ with IN, ET, IF. He definitely has a strong introverted intuition and is like the writers of other counterpart INTJ's. Again, he's sooo at the margin that I can hardly make up my mind what traits he pulls from amongst the ones we've all discussed.
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    "Don't let what matters least, matter most."

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    Are you even using your Ti for this, paisley?

    Another thing is he has a look in his eye, and intonation in his voice, when an interview question is asked, he will look into it as an "Fe" type question (about a mood that is created or his opinion of a person), even if its any other question, and he always seems to be forcing out words relating to his Ni, and his face lights up when he uses keywords from Ni, like strange or magic, in one of his interviews. He can never fully explain what he means. The feeling tones are there, but the wording has to relate to the listeners as best as he can through Fe. Creative function usually goes one way, and he doesn't let him come back at him. He's very defensive in that regard. He seems like a big INFP.

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    Is that an insult or understatement?

    Ya, there's a case to be made for INFP for sure, that's definitely a huge possibility, like I said. IF, EN could be the way he views the world, like a quick study and, given all the great INFP writers of the world, but is that a natural disposition or is that a function of his upbringing and a learned trait?

    Too close to the margin to be a run away in any type, but definitely not an ISTJ.
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    So I was just piddle-paddling, dusting out a corner (istj) for the heck of it since I like to think about those ego relations a lot. Not for the heck of it actually, but the perspective it offers I think is useful in that once you pick up on patterns and hold those over other possibilities, it's like using your 50-50 card on Who Wants to be a Millionaire. so istj or infj?

    Adding to what you've mentioned already, paisley1...
    This isn't an ideal way that I'd like to make a point, but watching an interview of him for the Illusionist, you can catch him remarking on Jessica Beil (who is presumably isfp): that she is such a "natural elegance", very pure, graceful, being completely enamored with the "naturalness" that she exudes. Could this mean that he is more in touch with his Se than Si? Considering the last few posts on top of this, I think so. I see him as infj at this point.

    He is not infp. Repeat - not infp. I can't see myself acting the way he does. Scratch that off your list, lemons!

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    Why do you say he's not INFP? What about his method and his writing ability strokes that off the list? Is it his dry collected demeanor that is the distinction you're making? What is your acting like, that he is sooo contrary? Let me in a bit to that.

    As well, where does the in touch with Se and Si even come from, what's that about? He's naturally intuitive and can play on any S trait, is my blanket answer to that, especially if he's an INFJ!
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    Pretentious INTP.

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    I love that you feel the need to call an actor pretentious.......lmao, hahahaha!!!! Yes he's a great big showoff, like every other actor out there.

    Why INTP? Just a gut feeling?

    Nice answer Edahn!
    "Truth stands true, independent of whether you agree with it or not."

    "Don't let what matters least, matter most."

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    Quote Originally Posted by paisley1 View Post
    I love that you feel the need to call an actor pretentious.......lmao, hahahaha!!!! Yes he's a great big showoff, like every other actor out there.

    Why INTP? Just a gut feeling?

    Nice answer Edahn!
    The "pretentious" was added with love. He's an awesome actor and I'd fuck the shit out of him, even if I'd be fucking Courtney Love by extension.

    I'll admit INTP is a total gut feeling; he talks like literally every INTP I've encountered.

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