Sofia Coppola

[Orangey]

What do you think her type is?

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[Edgar]

What do you think her type is?

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I'd say ISFP. She talks like an ISFP, and she even has that female-ISFP body language.

Apparently, she based Lost In Translation movie on her own failed marriage, and the main character there was also ISFP.

 

[Orangey]

Hmmm...I've heard people here say that Charlotte from Lost in Translation was some sort of NT (I personally think she was INTP).

But I don't know about ISFP for Sofia...I'll have to watch more interviews.

 

[Edgar]

Hmmm...I've heard people here say that Charlotte from Lost in Translation was some sort of NT (I personally think she was INTP).

Aw HELL no!

 

[Orangey]

Aw HELL no!

Why do you say that? Here's my brief list of reasons:

-Deadpan
-Definitely introverted (though this could count towards your ISFP)
-Slightly arrogant
-Rarely displays emotion
-Majored in philosophy
-Made fun of people

 

[Edgar]

Why do you say that? Here's my brief list of reasons:

-Deadpan
-Definitely introverted (though this could count towards your ISFP)
-Slightly arrogant
-Rarely displays emotion
-Majored in philosophy
-Made fun of people

She tried to hold back her emotions, (due to introversion and because she was losing touch with her husband) but they were always there. She even had a breakdown when she thought that she lost her sense of empathy (that scene when she calls back US).

There was nothing NT about her.

 

[Orangey]

She tried to hold back her emotions, (due to introversion and because she was losing touch with her husband) but they were always there. She even had a breakdown when she thought that she lost her sense of empathy (that scene when she calls back US).

There was nothing NT about her.

NTs have emotions.

But remember that scene where her and Bob were laying in the bed together, and she was saying that she was too "mean"? Plus her honesty in assessing her own talent suggests T at least (the part where she was saying that her photography was sooo mediocre). And I don't think anything about her suggests S.

 

[ajblaise]

I would say: an intelligent INFJ.

Definitely get the J vibe. T/F is a little more hazy. She seems like she can get very mentally detached, but that that's not her default state.

 

[Edgar]

NTs have emotions.

But remember that scene where her and Bob were laying in the bed together, and she was saying that she was too "mean"? And I don't think anything about her suggests S.

Bah, I have to watch the movie again to make valid MBTI arguments, but I guarantee you that she was a feeler. Perhaps she was INFP, but she was definitely IxFP, just as Bill Murray's character.

(edit: BTW, it is the feelers who become overly concerned with becoming "too mean", not thinkers. Thinkers worry about becoming "too emotional")

 

[Orangey]

I would say: an intelligent INFJ.

Definitely get the J vibe. T/F is a little more hazy. She seems like she can get very mentally detached, but that that's not her default state.

I think this is more on target, but remember the way she coldly treated that actress who was a friend of her husband's? And that guy who was telling her about his music?

There's just no Fe about her.

 

[Edgar]

I think this is more on target, but remember the way she coldly treated that actress who was a friend of her husband's?

Yeah, that was because she suspected that her husband was cheating on her with that actress.

I can't believe you missed that.

 

[Orangey]

Bah, I have to watch the movie again to make valid MBTI arguments, but I guarantee you that she was a feeler. Perhaps she was INFP, but she was definitely IxFP, just as Bill Murray's character.

(edit: BTW, it is the feelers who become overly concerned with becoming "too mean", not thinkers. Thinkers worry about becoming "too emotional")

She wasn't worried about "becoming" too mean, she was stating that she was already mean. And her uncaring-ness seemed to be a source of friction between her and her husband (like when she said that her husband thought she was too snotty).

 

[Orangey]

Yeah, that was because she suspected that her husband was cheating on her with that actress.

I can't believe you missed that.

Remember the scene where her and Bob are walking through that jazz club, and they see the actress on the stage singing? The way that she laughs at her suggests that she views her more as an object of ridicule than a serious threat (and the actress wasn't even with her husband at that point). Even when they first met, she made fun of her for using the pseudonym "Evelyn Waugh", because it was a guy's name. And then her husband chided her for making fun of the girl.

 

[Edgar]

She wasn't worried about "becoming" too mean, she was stating that she was already mean. And her uncaring-ness seemed to be a source of friction between her and her husband (like when she said that her husband thought she was too snotty).

The whole point of the story was that she was being neglected by her husband and she was becoming cold and distant, which was an unnatural state for her. That's why she had an emotional breakdown, and that's why a relationship with Bob started to blossom.

 

[Edgar]

Remember the scene where her and Bob are walking through that jazz club, and they see the actress on the stage singing? The way that she laughs at her suggests that she views her more as an object of ridicule than a serious threat (and the actress wasn't even with her husband at that point). Even when they first met, she made fun of her for using the pseudonym "Evelyn Waugh", because it was a guy's name. And then her husband chided her for making fun of the girl.

ISFPs have no problem goofing on other people behind their back while in the company of friends. I think you're missing the big picture.

 

[ajblaise]

ISFPs have no problem goofing on other people behind their back while in the company of friends. I think you're missing the big picture.

Why S over N? After introversion, N seems the second most obvious to me.

 

[Orangey]

The whole point of the story was that she was being neglected by her husband and she was becoming cold and distant, which was an unnatural state for her. That's why she had an emotional breakdown, and that's why a relationship with Bob started to blossom.

Really? I always got the feeling that it was about her being disillusioned with her life in general. She wasn't only worried about her husband's neglect...she was also dissatisfied with the lifestyle she was living and her lack of direction. She was listening to self-help tapes to find out who she was...so I viewed it more as an existential breakdown rather than just an emotional crisis related to her marriage.

 

[Edgar]

Why S over N? After introversion, N seems the second most obvious to me.

Honestly, I saw that movie like 5 years ago, so I'm not sure about S/N part. But I am quite confident about the IxFP part.

 

[Edgar]

Really? I always got the feeling that it was about her being disillusioned with her life in general. She wasn't only worried about her husband's neglect...she was also dissatisfied with the lifestyle she was living and her lack of direction. She was listening to self-help tapes to find out who she was...so I viewed it more as an existential breakdown rather than just an emotional crisis related to her marriage.

An INTP that listens to "self help tapes"? common...

 

[Orangey]

An INTP that listens to "self help tapes"? common...

That's kind of true...but a minor point. I don't really see anything that would suggest as strong an F as you seem to be saying that she was.