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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    It's too abstract in some regards, I didn't say anything about deep.

    Fi can be deep.

    Jared Leto in 30 Second to Mars is emotionally deep, but his lyrics are nowhere in the neighborhood of Radiohead abstraction.

    Thom Yorke = Ni and I think EVERYTHING about him screams that. INFJs are often intensely private, I even see it on this forum.
    Stupid. No one has pointed out a clear cut example of Ni besides the bullshit postulation about his music which should be discounted based on its stupidity.

    Real INFJ's are people who are the chart the course interaction style which Thom Yorke is notably not. He is most definitely behind the scenes. I find it funny no one has addressed that part of my original statement yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetOffMyBiscuits View Post
    Stupid. No one has pointed out a clear cut example of Ni besides the bullshit postulation about his music which should be discounted based on its stupidity.
    Oh so now people are stupid cuz they disagree with you. K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Yeah...and that's cool...I love what they create, I like listening to it sometimes, and as I mentioned in that post "Street Spirit" is a hauntingly beautiful song...but I absolutely do not believe it's about the ultimate triumph of the devil, and if that's what he intended that's fine that's his meaning, but his audience is free to interpret by what it makes them feel...and I think that because I'm Fi. Because of my Fi, I think that song only means what it makes individuals feel when they hear it...but he INSISTS it comes from the great beyond, and how sad it is that the audience doesn't see it, like they're dogs wagging their tails. WOW. What a blatant rejection of his inferior Se, if I do say so myself.

    And yeah...Paranoid Android...Kid A...OK Computer...Karma Police...when I was younger I may have pretended or even tried to understand what that means, but as a grown woman, sure it seems almost pretentiously symbolic to me...but that's cool...it's their art, you know, it's their thing and I think that's fine they're so individualistic like that. I'm just not going to pretend it means anything to me as an adult. Beautiful haunting music, but as for some of the lyrics, just no.

    Fake Plastic Trees is one of the only songs I attribute a specific meaning to, I thought it was about consumerism but here he was in your description talking about it being funny things that came out of his head...
    Yeah, I've read/watched their interviews and wondered whether he creatively is that complex to where he attributes that much deeper value in a song initially, or whether those quotes were just the result of later articulation to sensations he felt during the creative process. Personally, I try not to get too caught up trying to decipher song meaning, as it typically detracts away from the song itself and putting any actual effort into doing so would make the results feel contrived, as opposed to when you 'get' the meaning of a song naturally after having listened to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by GetOffMyBiscuits View Post
    Its childish, and insubstantial.

    Any type can and will use heavy metaphor in their writing. Which is basically what you said was Ni in that long ramble of doo doo.
    Fair enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Oh so now people are stupid cuz they disagree with you. K.
    No, how about you point out a real example of Ni? that'd be a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetOffMyBiscuits View Post
    No, how about you point out a real example of Ni? that'd be a start. Or you can avoid answering that by pointing out retarded things that have nothing to do with his type? And never say anything of use ever.
    You know the way people think and create does have to do with their cognition, as do their motives. I've given clear explanations for Ni dom vs. Jared Leto who is Fi dom. If you don't like it, that's your problem.

    There's nothing retarded about comparing someone's art to their overall demeanor.

    I don't know where you're even getting ISFP other than Thom Yorke is very introverted and intensely private, so you keep insisting he's "behind the scenes." His description of his fans sounded very much like rejection of inferior Se to me, definitely not aux Se.

    So unless you can stop calling people stupid and retards when they're giving thoughtful explanations for their opinions, I'm done with you.

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    Listen, Mr. Biscuits. Do you mind if I call you that? I know it's a bit formal.

    I know it's pretty much standard procedure for some to feel the need to earn their NT stripes by making their points in a very brash and abrasive manner, but you're kinda polluting the air with bad vibes, man. Trust me, I, or no one else will think less of you if you wanna have a real discussion like normal people without the use of grade school insults to drive your points home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetOffMyBiscuits View Post
    Stupid. No one has pointed out a clear cut example of Ni besides the bullshit postulation about his music which should be discounted based on its stupidity.
    So look at around 3:32 of this video:

    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWOKtktYfP0&feature=related"].[/YOUTUBE]

    He says that his inspiration is a bit like constructing a parallel universe, and has little to do with him. As far as I'm concerned, that suggests Ni, because, while Ji functions have the propensity to become egocentric, Ni is very difficult for the ego to envelop; if the ego were to take hold of one's intuition, their psyche would become warped at best. Could you imagine believing you are the abstract tapestries that rush in and out of your brain? That would be lunacy. Inspiration comes with ease for the Ni dom, but extemporaneously, with or without immediate impact from the environment. Furthermore, the notion that his music illustrations this "parallel world" rather than him as a person, suggests that he is a 5 rather than a 4, as E5s tend to want their perspective to be understood, while on the other hand E4s tend to want their selves understood. Fine distinction.

    That's all I got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GetOffMyBiscuits View Post
    Real INFJ's are people who are the chart the course interaction style which Thom Yorke is notably not. He is most definitely behind the scenes. I find it funny no one has addressed that part of my original statement yet.
    Ahh I've known a few INFJs irl...and none of them were this 'chart the course' kind of INFJ that you describe. Moreover...I had a relationship with an INFJ male 5w4 that was SO NOT 'chart the course' I couldn't even tell you. If he could get lost in his 'imaginary world of thoughts' and never return...he would get lost in his 'imaginary world of thoughts' and never return.

    It is spooky when I watch these Thom Yorke videos because I see my irl INFJ 5w4 in him. This makes me suspect my irl 5w4 was sx/sp. I don't know though. But everything...down to the pissyness. Uff. LOL!

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    I saw the title of the thread and thought "INFJ" without giving any thought to it.

    After giving it some thought, and reading the above posts, I still agree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigmata View Post
    Listen, Mr. Biscuits. Do you mind if I call you that? I know it's a bit formal.

    I know it's pretty much standard procedure for some to feel the need to earn their NT stripes by making their points in a very brash and abrasive manner, but you're kinda polluting the air with bad vibes, man. Trust me, I, or no one else will think less of you if you wanna have a real discussion like normal people without the use of grade school insults to drive your points home.
    Is it impossible for you people to look at the substance of what someone says? Making condescending remarks about what you believe are my motivations for calling you out is possibly the most childish/ useless thing you could do (at least my childishness has substance). I know you're trying to save face but the only way you're going to do that is by truthfully typing Thom York. Not proving superiority over me with your bad rhetorical tactics.

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