Greed Based Systems and Alternatives - Page 11

Anja · 10-09-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Flak

I don't start debates, I Finnish em! <--Hilarious.

Yeah, robo-waiters, and cooks too. Robots inventing Robots inventing anything you can imagine. All that jazz. Won't it be glorious?

I gotta idea! Lets try to make people dispensible since they are at the root of all problems.

Put everybody out of work.

Then we can play Matrix. Well. A few of us, at least.

Jack Flak · 10-09-2008, 09:40 PM

Nothing would change in that regard, you know. By your logic, people are already dispensable.

Anja · 10-09-2008, 09:41 PM

I often think our Sci-Fi writers are our New World prophets.

Brave New World, anyone?

Anja · 10-09-2008, 09:42 PM

Jack ,stop being so dam verbose!

nolla · 10-09-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IlyaK1986

Either way, a system that works because of human nature will always be more successful than one that tries to oppose it and make things "as they should be".

I agree, I do believe it will have to be based on human nature. It can't work any other way. I would just want to have it based on something else than greed. Greed is part of the bad things in human nature. It could as well be based on something positive.

Jack Flak · 10-09-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nolla

I agree, I do believe it will have to be based on human nature. It can't work any other way. I would just want to have it based on something else than greed. Greed is part of the bad things in human nature. It could as well be based on something positive.

Well, if you base something on behavior, you don't get to pick and choose which tendencies to allow. The system wouldn't get off the ground.

nolla · 10-09-2008, 09:54 PM

I don't see why not. This system is up and running.

Jack Flak · 10-09-2008, 09:54 PM

Where

reason · 10-09-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Flak

I think we disagree on definitions, man. What else is the free market based on, if not profit a.k.a. greed?

Althought free markets, as I understand the them, are not based on greed, they do cope with greed very well. However, even in a very altruistic society, free markets would be the way to go.

nolla · 10-09-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Flak

Where

I meant this current system. It is based on human nature and the regulation is there to limit the bad effects of the human nature.

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Originally Posted by reason

Althought free markets, as I understand the them, are not based on greed, they do cope with greed very well. However, even in a very altruistic society, free markets would be the way to go.

So, where does the grow grow grow mentality come from if not greed? Why is it never enough?

10-09-2008, 09:41 PM	#103 (permalink)
Anja Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Type: INFP Location: Mankato, MN Posts: 3,005	I often think our Sci-Fi writers are our New World prophets. Brave New World, anyone? __________________ "No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer

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Anja Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Type: INFP Location: Mankato, MN Posts: 3,005	Jack ,stop being so dam verbose! __________________ "No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer

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10-09-2008, 09:40 PM	#102 (permalink)
Jack Flak Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Type: INTP Location: The Everlasting Sky Posts: 9,359	Nothing would change in that regard, you know. By your logic, people are already dispensable.

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nolla Señor Membrane Join Date: May 2008 Type: INFP Location: Finland Posts: 1,397	I don't see why not. This system is up and running.

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Jack Flak Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Type: INTP Location: The Everlasting Sky Posts: 9,359	Where