Ladies' night

[Lateralus]

Oh, yes it's ladies' night, judge rules - CNN.com

Judge Miriam Goldman Cedarbaum tossed the lawsuit out of federal court in Manhattan on Monday. She said nightclubs can price their products as they wish because they're not acting as representatives of the state.

Would this judge have made the same ruling if the nightclub set their prices based on race?

[BerberElla]

ladies night isn't meant to discriminate against men, it's meant to help them by getting more ladies into the club so they can have more fun. It's sad that anyone would feel the need to start a lawsuit over such a silly thing, but it is the US and silly lawsuits are a speciality wot wot?

I also don't believe you can compare it to a race issue, since it's not motivated in the same way.

If a club had "White's night" it would hardly be to get more of us mutli coloured people in.

[EffEmDoubleyou]

I agree that it's not motivated the same way. More women = more business. To a degree, it's just an extension of the way clubs pay certain minor celebrities a fee just to come hang out at the club. Instead of getting paid, the women at ladies' night are just given a discount. I admit, it steams me sometimes, but I think it's legally defensible.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Lateralus

Would this judge have made the same ruling if the nightclub set their prices based on race?

That may depend on which race gets the price break.

[Lateralus]

I'm not against this ruling. I don't think the government should have any say in the matter, whatsoever. I think the judge lied, though. I don't think she would rule the same, regardless of the situation. The US is so hypocritical with these sorts of issues. It would be okay to have a 'Black night', but not a 'White night'. It's not about equality, it's about settling scores.

[pure_mercury]

Private organization = charge whatever people will pay, and do business with whomever you want. A private club should be able to admit only whites or only blacks or only Jews or whatever they want.

[Giggly]

The fascinating thing about this is that in all likelihood the female judge probably considers herself to be a Feminist, and the attorney is a self-reported Anti-feminist, when in fact, they both wanted the exact opposite of that based on the case filed and it's final ruling.

[CaptainChick]

Originally Posted by pure_mercury

Private organization = charge whatever people will pay, and do business with whomever you want. A private club should be able to admit only whites or only blacks or only Jews or whatever they want.

Lol, I actually kind of agree with this.

But perhaps I need to give it a bit more thought.

[proteanmix]

Originally Posted by Lateralus

I'm not against this ruling. I don't think the government should have any say in the matter, whatsoever. I think the judge lied, though. I don't think she would rule the same, regardless of the situation. The US is so hypocritical with these sorts of issues. It would be okay to have a 'Black night', but not a 'White night'. It's not about equality, it's about settling scores.

I think that's the implicit default in many cases. The places I go "tell" you whose night it is by the music they play. Stating such is illegal.

Ladies nights are to get more women to get more men to buy them drinks and thus make the club/bar more money.

[pure_mercury]

Originally Posted by CaptainChick

Lol, I actually kind of agree with this.

But perhaps I need to give it a bit more thought.

Well, it's an extreme freedom of association position, definitely. Still, I am always in favor of negative liberty (freedom from being forced to do something) over positive paternalism.