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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    I just had this conversation, its contained within this thread;

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    Grrr. I /hate/ Proposition 8. Of course, I'm gay. I saw that vid, and it's interesting how they framed the freedom of someone else as encroaching on their freedom. Lol. It's not as if the gays want to come into your house and have sex on your living room floors. Come on people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I'm just wondering why it's so unequal in the US... it's always polygamy, never polyandry!
    Jesus, who wants a bunch of dudes hanging around? One is trouble enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Did you see "per se?" That means, like, "unless." As in "Unless there's some f'd up business going on."
    Dammit... I thought you were talking about Thomas Keller's New York restraunt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    There's nothing you would like to remain illegal/become illegal that you would like society to remain/progress past?

    Like slavery or spousal abuse for example.
    Slavery and spousal abuse require the infringement of others' rights. Polygamy does not. How can you not see the difference?
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen View Post
    Jesus, who wants a bunch of dudes hanging around? One is trouble enough!

    Right. In the same way, who wants all that extra shopping and/or nagging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Slavery and spousal abuse require the infringement of others' rights. Polygamy does not. How can you not see the difference?
    What rights? Legal rights? Or are you one of those God-given natural rights theory proponents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    But I think some people would contest the degree to which we can consider certain populations as "agents". There are certainly many social forces which limit the amount of agency that an individual may have, and because of this there may be reason to suspect that the idea of "consent" is a bit of a sham (not that I necessarily do, but it could be argued).
    I really hate arguments like these because not only are they vague, they're not provable, in any way.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    Right. In the same way, who wants all that extra shopping and/or nagging?
    Fair.


    I guess polygamists/polyandrists are just more patient than the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    What rights? Legal rights? Or are you one of those God-given natural rights theory proponents?
    Have you forgotten about the Constitution?
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    I really hate arguments like these because not only are they vague, they're not provable, in any way.
    Yeah, like the natural rights theory.

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